Dominic McGuire has reached agreement on a deal with the Toronto Raptors

[Roarque]

Why is anyone surprised that Casey wants to fill out the roster with a guy like this? Jamal is no doubt still in the Toronto plans - the slot has yet to be announced but he'll be there for the next 5-10 years.

[Joey]

Still, if he can defend the wing at an average rate or better, then why didn't he get more league interest? Surely the Knicks, Celtics and every other team in the east with play-off aspirations would love a guy would could guard D-Wade or LeBron for even a few minutes a game (I know Pierce would love the Celtics to give him a break once in a while). What about out West? Lakers, Thunder, Spurs? I just find it odd that this guy is a "defensive stopper" on the wing with what seems like ZERO interest league wide until the Raps come calling at the end of the off-season.

We have no idea what kind of interest he drew League wide.

But I don't imagine a headline of "Atlanta rumoured to be interested in Dominic McGuire" would generate many hits across the web ...

I think you also have to read "Defensive Stopper" with a small grain of salt.
(Not that anyone has seriously called him a "defensive stopper".)

Keeping in mind how much he will cost us, and that he is a 'Casey-guy'; he is a solid pickup, relatively speaking.


He is a Role-Player, and Rotation guy. Nothing more.
Most of the "Good teams" you speak of, are quite heavy on solid Role-Players, and would likely rather leave a spot open in case someone becomes available via Waivers or elsewhere.

[Axel]

Still, if he can defend the wing at an average rate or better, then why didn't he get more league interest? Surely the Knicks, Celtics and every other team in the east with play-off aspirations would love a guy would could guard D-Wade or LeBron for even a few minutes a game (I know Pierce would love the Celtics to give him a break once in a while). What about out West? Lakers, Thunder, Spurs? I just find it odd that this guy is a "defensive stopper" on the wing with what seems like ZERO interest league wide until the Raps come calling at the end of the off-season.

[ReubenJRD]

Seems like an awful lot of positives about a guy who wasn't resigned by the Warriors and was signed at the end of the off-season. I'm not usually this negative about a move, but it seems a little bit sketchy to me. If this guy was a legit wing defender than I'm sure he could have found a spot on just about any and every team in the league, so why was he left to be a "last-call" signing?

I mean, if all of the ravings are true, then great pick-up (probably more from a cultural perspective than actual on-court production).

Well that's the thing, he can only defend. VERY limited skill offensively. Reached ceiling.

He is what he is as a player.

[Axel]

Seems like an awful lot of positives about a guy who wasn't resigned by the Warriors and was signed at the end of the off-season. I'm not usually this negative about a move, but it seems a little bit sketchy to me. If this guy was a legit wing defender than I'm sure he could have found a spot on just about any and every team in the league, so why was he left to be a "last-call" signing?

I mean, if all of the ravings are true, then great pick-up (probably more from a cultural perspective than actual on-court production).

[Hugmenot]

I have no problem with us signing a player who does one thing really well as an end of bench player. McGuire can cover his man and that's a skill many of his (new) teammates have yet to demonstrate.

[Vykis]

http://o.canada.com/2012/09/09/mcgui...o-the-raptors/


Gotta love those defensive stats

[Joey]

hmmm maybe casey got his defensive specialist

Seems like a solid replacement for JJ.

If he comes off the bench and provided energy, solid D and a couple baskets on broken plays, he'll earn some fans.

[ceez]

hmmm maybe casey got his defensive specialist

[theycallmeZZ]

Doug Smith on the signing"

Raptors training camp is getting a bit crowded

Well, they should probably be done now.
Saw a tweet from Woj about the Raptors signing Dominic McGuire to a deal and it took about 15 minutes to get it confirmed.

The interesting part?

McGuire’s going to have at least a partial guarantee on his one-year contract, I’m told Jamaal Magloire’s going to have at least a partial guarantee on his deal and that brings to 16 the number of guys who are assured at least some money, regardless of whether they stick or not.

And since the rules only allow 15 players to be on the team at any one time, someone’s going to get some money to go away – either by being released or traded for some nominal future consideration like a protected second round draft pick.

But it’s not like these partially-guaranteed deals are worth very much – the total of them would be veteran minimums, I don’t have the exact figures but there’s no way the guarantees are worth very much at all.

One possibility would be that if Magloire doesn’t stick on the roster he moves into some other role with the franchise, somewhere in the front office or in player development, a move that’s been chatted about more than a few times.

McGuire?

Well, can’t imagine too many of you are too familiar with him.

He’s a 6-9 forward with limited offensive skills who is athletic and solid defender; he’s also a former second-round draft pick who is about to play for his fifth team in six seasons, having started in Washington before moving on to Sacramento, Charlotte and Golden State last season, where he started six games and played in all 66.

Not sure there’s a lot of upside there; maybe he blossoms, maybe he’s just a depth guy and protection against injury.

I believe the balance of power in the NBA is unchanged with this signing.

The guy who loses the most here is Chris Wright, who now comes to a camp with a team that has 16 players with some kind of guarantee on their deals.

Again, this is nothing to get all excited about, it’s just filling out the back end of the roster.

Are they done? I’d sure think so but I was told last week they might have interest in one other guy but now I would imagine that interest has waned.

[Vykis]

From what i've read, i like his versatility on defense if he's really as good as the people say, he could instantly be one of the better defenders on our team. But he probably will be a liability on offence

[theycallmeZZ]

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/09...o-add-defender

Wolstat on the signing


A few opinions in the reddit thread about the signing:

Warriors fan:

Happy this guy ended up on a roster. He was a warrior, in both team name and nature last year. He could defend all positions and shut down everyone.
You guys are gonna love this guy

Another Warriors fan reply: Yeah seriously! Always gives it all on the court. I still remember him destroying Chris Paul on defense last year when we played the Clippers. Sorry he had to go, but glad he's going somewhere!

Wizards fan:

He really began to blossom while he was on the Wizards a few years ago. Top notch defender and athlete, not a bad shooter, and most of all is a great leader and teammate.

Warriors fan reply to Raps fan saying we should have kept the 15th spot open:

Good for him! I wanted him to stay but I am glad someone is giving him a chance. He will shine! You really got a steal. You will take that back within the first 2 months.

Warriors fan reply to me when I said that I think he's a poor man's James Johnson:

Poor man's Luc Mbah a Moute is a more apt descripthion. This man can defend 1-5. Check out his work on Chris Paul last season. Quality player, we just had too many SFs and noncommitment to defense.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments...c_mcguire_has/

[Sig]

Watched a couple of Warriors games last season, the commentators always spoke very highly of him and gave tons of compliments. He's a good hustle player, seen lots of those type of plays from him. His ability to guard four positions is also great.

[ReubenJRD]

Some Warrior fans' perspective on the RealGM boards:









Sounds like a great guy to have in practice and someone you can put out there with a lead or when someone is going off.

I can expect to see him in uniform over Acy, Anderson, and Lucas. Only because out of the 4, he fits the mold perfectly of "Casey type player."

Not a signing to get excited about, but could be a guy that plays some spot minutes for us next season.

[The Coach]

Some Warrior fans' perspective on the RealGM boards:

He's astoundingly good defensively. Went under the radar with us last year because we had such a sh*t season, but he was comparable to Udoh at times in terms of sheer defensive impact. And Udoh is a statisticians and defense-lovers wet dream.

He's a very rugged defender! Even shutdown Carmelo and sent his shot flying. Good to see that other teams fans don't really have a good view of other teams players. We would have loved to have him back. I'd gladly give u our 2nd rd pick Green for him. His first start of the yr he grabbed 15 rb

Warriors fan (and Raps fan) here. McGuirre is effing AWESOME. He can guard 4 positions... last year we had him on guys like Deron and Rose at clutch moments. He's still very incapable offensively, but he's an incredible specialist defender. We were super disappointed at losing him, but we didn't have space on our roster to keep him. He was starting for us at the end, which isn't saying much, but we were playing him above guys like Dorell Wright and even Brandon Rush.

Casey is going to fall in love with him. I guess he's kind of like James Johnson though.

Warriors fan insight here:

Dude is a damn good defender. That's what he was here, a hustle player that was put into rotations to shut down players 1 on 1 defensively. Kinda sucks how much you guys are making him seem out to be a horrible player without reasoning. He does the things that don't show up on the stat sheets. I remember one game, against the Nets, it was tied.. Nets had the last possession, clock winding down, and we put Dom on Deron Williams.. and as Deron went for the kill, D-Mac blocked the hell out of his shot.

He's a role-player. He's not gonna score a bunch, but everything else he does will have noticeable impact if he is utilized right. I'll miss this guy. Wish we could have resigned him. Great great great defender for how much he's paid. Defender, rebounder, hustle player. Every team needs that guy.

Sounds like a great guy to have in practice and someone you can put out there with a lead or when someone is going off.