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    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...efine-himself/


    Fantastic article by Koreen. Totally agree with it.
    @sweatpantsjer

  • #2
    The stacking principle is fine if you trade the excess players to fill positions of need.

    Not sure why one of Davis or Amir haven't been traded yet.

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      • #4
        TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
        Im kinda getting tired of the all the philosophical BS that DC is throwing out there.

        They need wins, not literary awards.

        Now he's at it again with Davis, “you’ve got to make your minutes count and not count your minutes.”
        Well, you've got to get the minutes to make your minutes count. 5 mins and 3 mins aint gonna cut it.

        JV is averaging 20min a game, and Ross, 9. Your foundations are playing less minutes than your D-Leaguer.

        I'd rather have the team lose going through growing pains rather than lose without any consolation.
        Agreed. Unless this team is poised for a deep playoff run - pause for laughter - I see absolutely no reason why guys like Anderson & McGuire are getting any playing time at all. It's just like last year; why not feed playing time to the players you're trying to develop, as opposed to players that are unlikely to be on your team (or possibly even in the NBA) next season? I just don't get it.

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          CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
          Agreed. Unless this team is poised for a deep playoff run - pause for laughter - I see absolutely no reason why guys like Anderson & McGuire are getting any playing time at all. It's just like last year; why not feed playing time to the players you're trying to develop, as opposed to players that are unlikely to be on your team (or possibly even in the NBA) next season? I just don't get it.
          I agree, but putting out all the young players would be the same as BC back tracking on any statements he made about this season being a building year and not a re-building year. And that is a hard thing to explain to fans just 6 games into the season.

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          • #6
            CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
            Agreed. Unless this team is poised for a deep playoff run - pause for laughter - I see absolutely no reason why guys like Anderson & McGuire are getting any playing time at all. It's just like last year; why not feed playing time to the players you're trying to develop, as opposed to players that are unlikely to be on your team (or possibly even in the NBA) next season? I just don't get it.
            I was going to make up an excuse like i did in the past, by saying maybe these young guys are not putting effort in practice, or not fully buying into the system, but IMO, its a cause and effect thing. You dont give them minutes, they're not going to be thrilled to be there. Its just human nature. If we are not going to get burn, why pick me in 8th or why pull me from being a euro sensation? I dont get it either.

            I think what also is coming to light is that DC is a genius on the defensive end, but a bonehead in the offensive end. We've all been wondering why these guys keeping taking long two's and threes and jumpshots, well, is it maybe because the offensive sets are not working?
            Last edited by TheGloveinRapsUniform; Mon Nov 12th, 2012, 02:12 PM.

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            • #7
              I Cant Stand DC

              The more the season progresses....the more i cant stand DC..... he just seems lost out there and his player rotations are not even NBA quality (maybe because he doesnt have much NBA quality players - thanks to Bryan No Clue-angelo). I agree he used to be good defensively (with the right players)...but he had a hand in shipping off one of his better defensive players in JJ.....now he's paying the price. I wonder if he wishes he had JJ instead of Fields.....at least JJ could handle the ball and make a layup!! ***

              only DUMB coaches forget that you need the personnel to run a good system....

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              • #8
                special1 wrote: View Post
                The more the season progresses....the more i cant stand DC..... he just seems lost out there and his player rotations are not even NBA quality (maybe because he doesnt have much NBA quality players - thanks to Bryan No Clue-angelo). I agree he used to be good defensively (with the right players)...but he had a hand in shipping off one of his better defensive players in JJ.....now he's paying the price. I wonder if he wishes he had JJ instead of Fields.....at least JJ could handle the ball and make a layup!! ***

                only DUMB coaches forget that you need the personnel to run a good system....
                hahahaa this actually made me laugh but its true nonetheless.

                JJ actually hid DD defensive deficiencies

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                • #9
                  I have no special affinity for Ed Davis but, in general, player usage has been a big problem for this team for years. Too many undeserving veterans eating up minutes. As I said in another thread, the last 2 seasons were wasted trying to develop middling players (Bargnani, Derozan) or guys who were just flyers (Bayless, James Johnson, etc.).

                  Other than Valanciunas, this team has nothing to show for the past two years. Worse, a lottery pick like Davis has been under-utilized and marginilized. They want to keep assets, they just don't know how to use them.

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                  • #10
                    The lack of proper roster management is the thing that drives me craziest about BCs tenure. If you took an objective look at the roster and the state of the league, it's pretty obvious that the team won't be competing for anything meaningful in the near future. That doesn't seem to be stopping BC from running the team with his blinders on though.

                    If it were me and I had job secuirty, I'd blow it all up. Bargs, Calderon and Lowry are great contracts to use in trading for picks (and I'm assuming here that Lowry wouldn't resign if you blew the team up, but if he wanted to stay then obviously lock him up). Focus on playing JV, DD, Ross and Davis as much as possible, wait for Amir and Fields' contracts to turn into expiring bargaining chips, try to load up on 2014 lottery picks. Either some of the youth pans out or you turn them into stars that other teams can't afford, a la James Harden.

                    Unfortunately BC doesn't have that kind of job security, so it ain't gonna happen. But it should. While I love Lowry, the team sin't going to contend for anything while he's their best player. And they're sure as hell not going to compete with Bargs as the first option on offense. If the team is still getting their asses handed to them mid-season, it would be the perfect time to blow it up. Too bad it's not going to happen.

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                    • #11
                      And with all those bigs, Aaron Grey comes into the game at the end vs. Utah and we get killed on the high screen because he's so slow he not only can't hedge on Mo, he screened his own man. I felt like Grey coming in lost us the game, and that's with Val and Davis rotting on the bench.

                      Blah.

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                      • #12
                        Superchunk wrote: View Post
                        And with all those bigs, Aaron Grey comes into the game at the end vs. Utah and we get killed on the high screen because he's so slow he not only can't hedge on Mo, he screened his own man. I felt like Grey coming in lost us the game, and that's with Val and Davis rotting on the bench.

                        Blah.
                        And Dom "Mr Stopper" McGuire was a team worst -10 in 33 minutes, while Ross saw just 3 minutes (and was 2nd best on team at +2).

                        Utah played a triple overtime game using just 9 players, in a tight rotation on a team with solid chemistry. DC trotted out 12 players, making some highly questionable substitutions. Between injuries and DC's roster management, it's no wonder the young guys are not developing (and look hesitant, in Ross's case), the team seems to have no chemistry and the offense looks utterly lost.

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                        • #13
                          CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
                          And Dom "Mr Stopper" McGuire was a team worst -10 in 33 minutes, while Ross saw just 3 minutes (and was 2nd best on team at +2).

                          Utah played a triple overtime game using just 9 players, in a tight rotation on a team with solid chemistry. DC trotted out 12 players, making some highly questionable substitutions. Between injuries and DC's roster management, it's no wonder the young guys are not developing (and look hesitant, in Ross's case), the team seems to have no chemistry and the offense looks utterly lost.
                          I cant post the source, but i read an article on DC that apparently he does not like playing rooks and sophs, and at one point he said that he recommended to BC that getting more veterans on the team would be a good idea. Also, i think he has an affinity for D-Leaguers and scrubs who made it in the big leagues, i.e. Lucas, McGuire and AA because he feels for the underdogs and he himself had to scrap and claw his way to the top. He probably feels that those guys deserve more minutes because they worked their way to get there, while Ross and JV were pretty much groomed
                          Last edited by TheGloveinRapsUniform; Tue Nov 13th, 2012, 11:33 AM.

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                          • #14
                            TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
                            I cant post the source, but i read an article on DC that apparently he does not like playing rooks and sophs, and at one point he said that he recommended to BC that getting more veterans on the team would be a good idea. Also, i think he has an affinity for D-Leaguers and scrubs who made it in the big leagues, i.e. Lucas, McGuire and AA because he feels for the underdogs and he himself had to scrap and claw his way to the top. He probably feels that those guys deserve more minutes because they worked their way to get there, while Ross and JV were pretty much groomed
                            Wowsers, seriously?? I would love to see a basketball team go to a football style coaching staff, where there's a head coach and both offensive/defensive coordinators. DC seems like he'd be a fantastic defensive coordinator, but frankly I don't think he's a top-tier head coach. His roster management, player development and substitution patterns have been terrible so far this season, to the point that I think he either directly or indirectly (ie: not giving DeRozna any rest during regulation, to the point that he was winded and his shooting tanked in overtime) cost this team a couple wins already.

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                            • #15
                              TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
                              I cant post the source, but i read an article on DC that apparently he does not like playing rooks and sophs, and at one point he said that he recommended to BC that getting more veterans on the team would be a good idea. Also, i think he has an affinity for D-Leaguers and scrubs who made it in the big leagues, i.e. Lucas, McGuire and AA because he feels for the underdogs and he himself had to scrap and claw his way to the top. He probably feels that those guys deserve more minutes because they worked their way to get there, while Ross and JV were pretty much groomed
                              I can't comment on the second part (i.e. D-League guys) but the first sentence describes every single coach in the history of everything.

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