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Yea i dont buy that. He's got like a 40" vert, his arm and forehead are above the rim on a lot of dunks
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Axel wrote: View PostThis post is not to knock T-Ross or his ability to dunk, but in terms of vertical, when you look at the numbers he isn't overly special.
All figures from Draft Express Pre-Draft Measurements
T-Ross Max Vert: 37.5
Comparable Leapers at 37.5 Max Vert
Austin Rivers - athletic undersized guard
Ben Gordon - surprising, but it's hard to remember him young since he was mostly a shooter
Joakim Noah - never thought he had that good of hops
Trenton Hassell - decent defender at the point, but no hilight reel
Jamaal Tinsley - really surprising
Close Comparables
Chris Quinn 37 - a half inch less. Has there ever been a less awe-inspiring player in the NBA? (Ok, maybe Brian Scalabrine and his 30.5 max vert)
James Harden 37 - solid dunker
Sonny Weems 36.5 - solid dunker
Russell Westrbook 36.5 - solid dunker
The cream of leaping crop
Kenny Gregory - 2001 - 45.5
Timmy Bowers - 2004 - 43.5
Nate Robinson - 2004 - 43.5
Vince Carter - 1998 - 43
Jamario Moon - 2001 - 43
Speedy Claxton - 2000 - 42.5 - surprised to see him so high
Random Dude with a cool name
Cookie Blecher - 2001 - 41.5
Unimpressive dunkers with better hops
Jordan Farmar 42" - shorter than Ross
Matt Barnes 40.5" - close to Ross physically
Joe Alexander 38.5" - close to Ross physically (scary thought!)
2012 Draft Class Only
No Step Vertical
Harrison Barnes 38
No one else reached 35", with T-Ross getting 31" (Chris Quinn got 32" in 2006!!)
Max Vertical - notable draftees only
Darius Johson-Odom 41.5 - Top
Marquis Teague- 40.5 (3rd)
Miles Plumlee - 40.5 (3rd)
Jeff Taylor - 40
Damian Lillard - 39.5
Harrison Barnes - 39.5
Bradley Beal - 39
PJ3 - 38.5
Jeremy Lamb - 38
Austin Rivers - 37.5
T-Ross - 37.5
Moe Harkless - 37
Quincy Acy - 37
So in the end, Ross is a good player and has thrown down some nice dunks, but to even put him in the conversation at VC is a discredit to VC's stellarness of dunking.
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This post is not to knock T-Ross or his ability to dunk, but in terms of vertical, when you look at the numbers he isn't overly special.
All figures from Draft Express Pre-Draft Measurements
T-Ross Max Vert: 37.5
Comparable Leapers at 37.5 Max Vert
Austin Rivers - athletic undersized guard
Ben Gordon - surprising, but it's hard to remember him young since he was mostly a shooter
Joakim Noah - never thought he had that good of hops
Trenton Hassell - decent defender at the point, but no hilight reel
Jamaal Tinsley - really surprising
Close Comparables
Chris Quinn 37 - a half inch less. Has there ever been a less awe-inspiring player in the NBA? (Ok, maybe Brian Scalabrine and his 30.5 max vert)
James Harden 37 - solid dunker
Sonny Weems 36.5 - solid dunker
Russell Westrbook 36.5 - solid dunker
The cream of leaping crop
Kenny Gregory - 2001 - 45.5
Timmy Bowers - 2004 - 43.5
Nate Robinson - 2004 - 43.5
Vince Carter - 1998 - 43
Jamario Moon - 2001 - 43
Speedy Claxton - 2000 - 42.5 - surprised to see him so high
Random Dude with a cool name
Cookie Blecher - 2001 - 41.5
Unimpressive dunkers with better hops
Jordan Farmar 42" - shorter than Ross
Matt Barnes 40.5" - close to Ross physically
Joe Alexander 38.5" - close to Ross physically (scary thought!)
2012 Draft Class Only
No Step Vertical
Harrison Barnes 38
No one else reached 35", with T-Ross getting 31" (Chris Quinn got 32" in 2006!!)
Max Vertical - notable draftees only
Darius Johson-Odom 41.5 - Top
Marquis Teague- 40.5 (3rd)
Miles Plumlee - 40.5 (3rd)
Jeff Taylor - 40
Damian Lillard - 39.5
Harrison Barnes - 39.5
Bradley Beal - 39
PJ3 - 38.5
Jeremy Lamb - 38
Austin Rivers - 37.5
T-Ross - 37.5
Moe Harkless - 37
Quincy Acy - 37
So in the end, Ross is a good player and has thrown down some nice dunks, but to even put him in the conversation at VC is a discredit to VC's stellarness of dunking.
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Mack North wrote: View PostThe guy's a rookie, and still developing. DeRozan, while still not a great ball handler, has improved exponentially since he's came into the league. No reason to believe Ross cannot improve all facets of his game. He's seems to have this quiet demeanor about him, but he's gaining confidence with every game. I'm impressed.
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akashsingh wrote: View Posthonestly I feel like ross's game is a waste of his athletic ability, he needs to learn to put the ball on the floor. But w.e. can't turn somebody into something he's not.
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TRex wrote: View PostCan Ross jump as high as prime VC? NO.
VC's leaping ability and dunking ability is in a different level. I don't think anyone can compare to VC when it comes to dunking. There's a reason why people call him the greatest dunker of ALL TIME.
Ross is fantastic though. And i've been saying this in this forum for weeks now. Ross reminds me a lot of a young Jason Richardson. Difference is, Ross as a rookie is a much better shooter/defender than J-Rich in his rookie year.
J-Rich in his 1st year with the NBA was nothing but a dunker/slasher. Couldn't shoot, couldn't defend. Then he developed a 3pt shot later in hsi career and became primarily a 3pt shooter.
Ross i think has a chance to be a MUCH better player than J-Rich.
I see Ross more as a young Ray Allen. Sweet stroke, great hops, not the greatest handle. We have to teach him to run around all game coming off screens.
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honestly I feel like ross's game is a waste of his athletic ability, he needs to learn to put the ball on the floor. But w.e. can't turn somebody into something he's not.
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Vince was a freak, pure and simple. I mean...Vince jumped over a 7 footer DURING a game people. That said, Ross is about as close as you get to that without obviously being that kind of freak.
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Can Ross jump as high as prime VC? NO.
VC's leaping ability and dunking ability is in a different level. I don't think anyone can compare to VC when it comes to dunking. There's a reason why people call him the greatest dunker of ALL TIME.
Ross is fantastic though. And i've been saying this in this forum for weeks now. Ross reminds me a lot of a young Jason Richardson. Difference is, Ross as a rookie is a much better shooter/defender than J-Rich in his rookie year.
J-Rich in his 1st year with the NBA was nothing but a dunker/slasher. Couldn't shoot, couldn't defend. Then he developed a 3pt shot later in hsi career and became primarily a 3pt shooter.
Ross i think has a chance to be a MUCH better player than J-Rich.
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hateslosing wrote: View PostRoss' predraft max vet: 37.5"
VC's predraft max vert: 43"
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...ss-5747/links/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...er-1951/links/
So it's not really that close in terms of a max vertical. He's very close to Derozan though and has a better no step.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/demar-derozan-1319/
One thing I will say for T Ross is he isnt afraid to take off far away from the rim .. one of his dunks in the early games he took off inside the dotted line below the foul line and dunked it pretty easy. No easy feat for an in game dunk ... !
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Ross' predraft max vet: 37.5"
VC's predraft max vert: 43"
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...ss-5747/links/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...er-1951/links/
So it's not really that close in terms of a max vertical. He's very close to Derozan though and has a better no step.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/demar-derozan-1319/
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I played the Raptors online vs the Spurs on 2k13 last night and i made Ross as the starting small forward. This was his stat line:
17 pts, 9 rebs, 10 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk. We won too !
Also TRoss' dunks had more flair than Derozan's. This kid's future shines bright like a diamond
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