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  • Craiger
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    You know I agree with the bit on some effect on his ego or confidence but let us not forget St. Jose was absolutely dreadful starting the year from the bench.

    I am still a little surprised by Wolstat's 'educated guess' comment yesterday about BOTH Lowry and Calderon possibly being traded. I am starting to think that is 100% the way to go.
    While I don't agree Jose was dreadful coming off the bench (although he wasn't as good as he has been since starting), even if he was what does that have to do with Lowry or Lowry's current situation? Knocking Jose down a peg doesn't make Lowry or the questions around him any better.

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  • Balls of Steel
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Something is not right with him. We can all speculate but really only he, the coaching staff, and teammates know. I feel like the Raptors have broken him. The swagger and confidence this team desperately lacked and he had in abundance is gone. F*ck.
    He's been neutered somehow. I don't get it. Here's my only 2 explanations:

    1. Has he been promised by management that he's on the bench until Feb. 21st where they move Calderon for something. He was told to just learn the system and hang in tight. Once the deadline passes, he gets everything back...

    2. OR, the team has responded by saying we like Jose and the system. That's he's not a team player and is being kept around to maintain his value for a trade. IMHO, it's one of these two.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Craiger wrote: View Post
    Lets not go overboard with Lowry here. He's a good player but he's not in the 'great' category.

    The reality is Lowry needs to find a way to deal with it. If people want to argue Lowry should start, or Lowry should see more minutes etc. thats fine, I get that. But if coming off the bench is having some effect on his ego or confidence or is in some way bothering him and effecting his performance, this team doesn't need to stroke his ego and make him feel better. He needs to find some way to suck it up and get over it.

    This team doesn't need to baby sit grown men anymore.
    You know I agree with the bit on some effect on his ego or confidence but let us not forget St. Jose was absolutely dreadful starting the year from the bench.

    I am still a little surprised by Wolstat's 'educated guess' comment yesterday about BOTH Lowry and Calderon possibly being traded. I am starting to think that is 100% the way to go.

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  • Craiger
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    Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    Seriously there isnt anything to lose START LOWRY he came here to be the new pont guard its like the Raps just spit in his face Great player highly underutilized.
    Lets not go overboard with Lowry here. He's a good player but he's not in the 'great' category.

    The reality is Lowry needs to find a way to deal with it. If people want to argue Lowry should start, or Lowry should see more minutes etc. thats fine, I get that. But if coming off the bench is having some effect on his ego or confidence or is in some way bothering him and effecting his performance, this team doesn't need to stroke his ego and make him feel better. He needs to find some way to suck it up and get over it.

    This team doesn't need to baby sit grown men anymore.

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  • RNsteve
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    We trade Lowry, Ed D, Val(to a lesser degree ross) for anything less then a amazing product I honestly consider looking at other teams to follow.

    Sorry- I honestly think Jose has outplayed Lowry and would love to keep both(if we can sign Jose for 4-5 mil for 3 years...) but Lowry is a young PG, who can take over games, and play great D...he just needs to show it.

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  • wallz
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    He started the majority of games leading Houston to 2 seasons of plus .500 ball in the West. It isn't much but certainly much more success than Toronto has had the last 5 seasons.
    Toronto broke him. thank good ole BC for that

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  • Rapstor4Life
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    Great player? what has he accomplish? he was a backup in Memphis. Lost the starting job to Dragic in Houston last year. Lost the starting job to Calderon this year.

    See the trend? maybe he's not a starting PG in this league.

    The Dragic thing wasnt really a talent thing, he had an issue with Mchale and he got injured when he was starting and leadin the team they were well underway to the playoffs. Memphis drafted him buttraded him to Houston never really played much. Calderon is given the start because of chemistry and the higher ups I believe are shopping him.

    He is a starting PG in the league just gets shafted a lot.

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  • akashsingh
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I said this somewhere else but my take on that is Colangelo is all about Lowry and Casey wants to roll with Calderon.
    well we should listen to the half that's actually gonna be here next year.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    Great player? what has he accomplish? he was a backup in Memphis. Lost the starting job to Dragic in Houston last year. Lost the starting job to Calderon this year.

    See the trend? maybe he's not a starting PG in this league.
    He started the majority of games leading Houston to 2 seasons of plus .500 ball in the West. It isn't much but certainly much more success than Toronto has had the last 5 seasons.

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  • The Great One
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    Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    Seriously there isnt anything to lose START LOWRY he came here to be the new pont guard its like the Raps just spit in his face Great player highly underutilized.
    Great player? what has he accomplish? he was a backup in Memphis. Lost the starting job to Dragic in Houston last year. Lost the starting job to Calderon this year.

    See the trend? maybe he's not a starting PG in this league.

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  • Rapstor4Life
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Something is not right with him. We can all speculate but really only he, the coaching staff, and teammates know. I feel like the Raptors have broken him. The swagger and confidence this team desperately lacked and he had in abundance is gone. F*ck.
    Seriously there isnt anything to lose START LOWRY he came here to be the new pont guard its like the Raps just spit in his face Great player highly underutilized.

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  • The Great One
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    They traded a lottery 1st round pick for this guy? ugh. Brutal.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    Thinking and going with Calderon is so short term. Lowry was acquired through a first round pick. Now, everyone is talking as if the guy is a cancer and he's only been on the job for 4 months.
    Something is not right with him. We can all speculate but really only he, the coaching staff, and teammates know. I feel like the Raptors have broken him. The swagger and confidence this team desperately lacked and he had in abundance is gone. F*ck.

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  • Balls of Steel
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I said this somewhere else but my take on that is Colangelo is all about Lowry and Casey wants to roll with Calderon.
    Thinking and going with Calderon is so short term. Lowry was acquired through a first round pick. Now, everyone is talking as if the guy is a cancer and he's only been on the job for 4 months.

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  • Balls of Steel
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I am more than open to trading DeRozan but he is probably the biggest system guy of them all due to lack of dribble and 3pt shot.
    Why was management (BC) so eager to sign him again? He could have been a major trade asset on a rookie scale right?

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