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well cant say im suprised.. i pointed out in the last game day thread that Lowrys body language screamed GET ME OUT OF HERE.
guess i was right. if they move him it better be for some REAL value or im going to be pissed.
for those who cant find the Lowry rumor..
"Toronto is perhaps the most realistic landing spot for Gasol, given the uncertainty in the organization about whether Andrea Bargnani will ever develop into a star there. Bargnani wouldn't have to be a star in LA. He would simply have to stand at the 3-point line and make shots, a La Howard's former teammate in Orlando, Ryan Anderson. Toronto also has a point-guard problem to solve. And while Jose Calderon has frequently been mentioned as trade bait, league sources say the Raptors are far more amenable to trading Kyle Lowry, who has not made many friends in his new surroundings. The Raptors gave up a sure lottery pick for him (which Houston subsequently sent to Oklahoma City in the James Harden trade), so Gasol might be a way to salvage that transaction. Plus, with the new CBA taking effect and shortening teams' windows for winning, a team like Toronto might feel better about committing 1½ seasons to Gasol than using its cap room this summer to sign a lesser player for four years"
"Kyle Lowry, who has quickly worn out his welcome in Toronto, could be an option for the Mavs or Hawks, who are both in need of point-guard help. With only $1 million guaranteed next season, Lowry would be a short-term fix without clogging up future cap space"Last edited by DoNDaDDa; Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:46 AM.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostMarcus Smart is really giving the Chad Ford's and Jonathan Givony's wood of late. He is rising faster than a tent. Ford said when all said and done he thinks he'll be top 5.
Michael Carter-Williams is also rising fast at #8 on DraftExpress.com.
The guy I really like is Trey Burke and he is in that 15-20 range as of now.
Kabongo is looking early 2nd round but if he plays well, he is surely to rise when he returns.
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Craiger wrote: View PostMy first reaction is to chuckle.... Colangelo couldn't possibly move one of his key accusitions this quickly?
Then I thought of:
Kapono - 2 seasons
O'Neil - 0.5 season
Marion - 0.5 season
Hedo - 1 season
Johnsons - 1.5 seasons
Then I thought there is no way he'd move someone he just gave up a pick for?
Then I thought of:
17th pick for O'neil
O'neil for Marion + protected first rounder
30th pick for James Johnsons
James Johnson for 2nd rounder
Then I thought there is no way he'd make a PG move without ensuring the position was secure as Jose could walk after this season?
Then I thought of:
2008/09 season with Will Solomon and Roko Ukic and Bosh 2010
Then I thought there is no way he'd.....
Then I remember the GM is BC. My last reaction was to cry.
Don't forget about Fred Jones. That lasted about 3 months.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostThe fact Lowry has not meshed well in Toronto is not a slight on Lowry but a slight on Colangelo and the roster. Guys need to be spoon fed except Alan Anderson who seems, despite a lack of great size, speed, or athleticism, can get his shot at will. Believe it or not, I don't think Lowry is perfect but he is still a very talented NBA basketball player.... the best PLAYER on this team.
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I dunno Calderon has lived in TO for 8 years now. He must have a lot of friends here at this point and could retire with this organization with some sort of a job coaching job immediately down the road. Plus his friend Gasol would be here.
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pesterm1 wrote: View PostAfter what just happened with the Leafs,(luongo trade talks) and Burke maybe his has nothing to do with what Colangelo wants and more to do with what MLSE (bells/rogers) wants.
I could see the MLSE wanting Bryan to make something like this happen. The money doesnt work but it could be worked out. This would bring in TONS of cash for the MLSE and the ACC would be constantly sold out.
Gasol + Nash
for
Lowry + Bargnani
The Lakers biggest problem is age. They need some fresh legs in there.
The raps could then Resign Calderon for a reasonable salary and then we have veteran, pass first PG's running our team. Works well for the system and gets our young guys going for the next few years.
Raps
Gasol/ Valnciunas
Davis/ A.Johnson
Fields/ Anderson
Derozan/ Ross
Nash/ Calderon
Very even line up with a nice mix of veterans.
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After what just happened with the Leafs,(luongo trade talks) and Burke maybe his has nothing to do with what Colangelo wants and more to do with what MLSE (bells/rogers) wants.
I could see the MLSE wanting Bryan to make something like this happen. The money doesnt work but it could be worked out. This would bring in TONS of cash for the MLSE and the ACC would be constantly sold out.
Gasol + Nash
for
Lowry + Bargnani
The Lakers biggest problem is age. They need some fresh legs in there.
The raps could then Resign Calderon for a reasonable salary and then we have veteran, pass first PG's running our team. Works well for the system and gets our young guys going for the next few years.
Raps
Gasol/ Valnciunas
Davis/ A.Johnson
Fields/ Anderson
Derozan/ Ross
Nash/ Calderon
Very even line up with a nice mix of veterans.
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My first reaction is to chuckle.... Colangelo couldn't possibly move one of his key accusitions this quickly?
Then I thought of:
Kapono - 2 seasons
O'Neil - 0.5 season
Marion - 0.5 season
Hedo - 1 season
Johnsons - 1.5 seasons
Then I thought there is no way he'd move someone he just gave up a pick for?
Then I thought of:
17th pick for O'neil
O'neil for Marion + protected first rounder
30th pick for James Johnsons
James Johnson for 2nd rounder
Then I thought there is no way he'd make a PG move without ensuring the position was secure as Jose could walk after this season?
Then I thought of:
2008/09 season with Will Solomon and Roko Ukic and Bosh 2010
Then I thought there is no way he'd.....
Then I remember the GM is BC. My last reaction was to cry.
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Tim Chisholm Tim Chisholm @timpchisholm
The ‘Kyle Lowry is available’ stuff is both fascinating and not-entirely surprising. As talented as he is he has not meshed well in T.O.Tim Chisholm Tim Chisholm @timpchisholm
That said, we’re talking a small sample size and I’m not sure that Casey has done enough to help maximize Lowry’s strengths.
Tim Chisholm @timpchisholm
While Lowry may not get traded, rarely do Raps trade a piece that big w/o the possibility leaking in advance. So, take it for what you will.
The fact Lowry has not meshed well in Toronto is not a slight on Lowry but a slight on Colangelo and the roster. Guys need to be spoon fed except Alan Anderson who seems, despite a lack of great size, speed, or athleticism, can get his shot at will. Believe it or not, I don't think Lowry is perfect but he is still a very talented NBA basketball player.... the best PLAYER on this team.
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WJF wrote: View PostWhile I did think Lowry would be a good addition, I was never sold on him as our PG of the future, I would not mind if he got packaged and sent out of here. There are some sleeper PG's in the draft this year and I think a pick in the 15-20 range can get you a good one.
Michael Carter-Williams is also rising fast at #8 on DraftExpress.com.
The guy I really like is Trey Burke and he is in that 15-20 range as of now.
Kabongo is looking early 2nd round but if he plays well, he is surely to rise when he returns.
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WJF wrote: View PostWhile I did think Lowry would be a good addition, I was never sold on him as our PG of the future, I would not mind if he got packaged and sent out of here. There are some sleeper PG's in the draft this year and I think a pick in the 15-20 range can get you a good one.
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While I did think Lowry would be a good addition, I was never sold on him as our PG of the future, I would not mind if he got packaged and sent out of here. There are some sleeper PG's in the draft this year and I think a pick in the 15-20 range can get you a good one.
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I do recall on more than one occasion Lowry at the free throw line extending his hands back for his teammates but they hand't come to give him five. Just seemed odd.
Maybe he came in acting like the savior but while he was on the bench it turned out our lord and savior JC was there along just being humble and waiting for the chance he knew would come. Mighta taken the wind outa his sails a bit as we saw when he came back he wasn't playing the same.
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