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  • Nilanka
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    lmao. he looks lost out there. he needs a pg who will get him the ball
    Please name me one centre who DOESN'T need a PG to get him the ball.

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  • nubreed000
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    lmao. he looks lost out there. he needs a pg who will get him the ball
    please stop posting

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  • RandomGuy
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    I would try and trade val if anything. I think he's going to be useless in the new up-tempo offense
    If so then only Spurs please

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    lmao. he looks lost out there. he needs a pg who will get him the ball
    He's a rookie for god sake. The dude has a tremendous amount of talent and he is going to be a huge piece when we start making playoffs runs. He's already money from 15 ft out and the FT line, there aren't many Centers these days that have that. He also has great length to be able to block and alter shots, he's going to be a beast on both ends. Better than Roy Hibbert probably

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  • mcHAPPY
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    ebrian wrote: View Post
    It's a good analogy except to use Bargnani in that analogy, it's a part of the house that has mildew growing inside the drywall, and the only way to get rid of the mildew is to burn that part of the house down. If you let it sit there, the mildew will spread to the rest of the house.

    You said he's not a cancer to the team, but I say the only reason for that is because he's injured. He may not be a cancer in the traditional sense of the word -- that is he's not a bad boy, he's not saying bad things about his teammates or coach, but in every other sense of the word he is exactly that -- a cancer. When you have cancer in one area of your body, the rest of the body has to work extra hard to keep you alive. When you take chemo, your liver takes a beating. Same thing applies here. When you have your PF not caring, not defending, not rebounding that means every other guy has to do a little bit extra to make up for him. That causes other areas in their game to break down.
    Burning it down might be a bit excessive.

    I would definitely cut out and replace any area with a trace of mold and an extra foot just for good measure. So relating this to Bargnani, he should be cut out (or traded) and anyone who sat next to him on the bench also needs to go

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  • ebrian
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    It's a good analogy except to use Bargnani in that analogy, it's a part of the house that has mildew growing inside the drywall, and the only way to get rid of the mildew is to burn that part of the house down. If you let it sit there, the mildew will spread to the rest of the house.

    You said he's not a cancer to the team, but I say the only reason for that is because he's injured. He may not be a cancer in the traditional sense of the word -- that is he's not a bad boy, he's not saying bad things about his teammates or coach, but in every other sense of the word he is exactly that -- a cancer. When you have cancer in one area of your body, the rest of the body has to work extra hard to keep you alive. When you take chemo, your liver takes a beating. Same thing applies here. When you have your PF not caring, not defending, not rebounding that means every other guy has to do a little bit extra to make up for him. That causes other areas in their game to break down.

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  • Bears
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    OzRapFan wrote: View Post
    3 & 4 = amnesty
    Amnesty is useful if there is another player the raps want to sign that would put them over the tax limit ... ps wouldn't you amnesty Kleiza first?


    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    #tradeBargnani.

    The sooner the better.
    ceez wrote: View Post
    He needs to go regardless of how "well" he plays when he comes back. The sooner the better.
    I understand where you're both coming from. I do understand the frustration that everyone has had with AB but to just trade him for the sake of trading? It's not like he's a cancer on the team. He's not a "bad-presence". To me this is more of an emotional rather than a rational solution to the problem.

    Let me put it to you this way: Say Joe Blow went out and bought a house for one million, then found it had multiple construction flaws and it was now really worth 250K. The Million would be considered "sunk cost" (money you spent and you can't get it back). Would you just sell the house for 250K and cut your losses at 750K? Or do you try to maximize it's value by doing some renovations and repairs and sell it with a net 500K loss? We can all appreciate that we've already spent a 1st overall pick, multiple losing seasons, and 50 million dollars on AB (all sunk cost). It's now a matter getting as much out of him as you can on a trade. That's all I'm trying to say. That said, I can appreciate where you're coming from.
    Last edited by Bears; Mon Feb 4th, 2013, 02:09 AM.

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  • knickz
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    I just lost the little respect i had left for you...
    lmao. he looks lost out there. he needs a pg who will get him the ball

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  • ceez
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    He needs to go regardless of how "well" he plays when he comes back. The sooner the better.

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  • Eric Akshinthala
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    Scenario 2 is best of course but will require Bargnani to take it the right way and prove people wrong. At a time when he's the center of a lot of criticism which has probably led to his confidence being low, chances of it happening are 50-50. IMO the best thing to do is trade him as soon as possible. In his time in the NBA, despite his drawbacks, he has established a reasonably good reputation. I think that based on what he's established for himself, there's a market out there for him. BC may have said that trade talks for him did take place until he got injured which doesn't mean that they are going to trade him and all that. Usually when BC comes out and mentions such a thing the player gets traded. So I have a feeling that Bargnani is spending his last days as a Raptor.

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  • DoNDaDDa
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    I would try and trade val if anything. I think he's going to be useless in the new up-tempo offense
    i just spit my breakfast out all over the place!!

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  • Rapstor4Life
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    I would try and trade val if anything. I think he's going to be useless in the new up-tempo offense
    You dd watch Lithuania games right Val runs the floor he can handle up tempo and before injury he was almost averaging a double double and was great helping us to that 7 game winstreak.

    JV is awesome, when he gets mor experience and adds bulk and strength to his body hes going to be legit relax he just a 20 year kid atm.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    #tradeBargnani.

    The sooner the better.

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  • Blacklash2k4
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    I just lost the little respect i had left for you...
    +1

    knickz wrote: View Post
    I would try and trade val if anything. I think he's going to be useless in the new up-tempo offense
    -1

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    I would try and trade val if anything. I think he's going to be useless in the new up-tempo offense
    I just lost the little respect i had left for you...

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