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  • mcHAPPY
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    RepRaptorsintheUSA wrote: View Post
    Quick notes about the Boston game i hadn't posted.
    Lowry had a great 3rd qtr. When he driving & looking to dish he was helping. It was impressive he was getting rebounds. Other then that I wasn't happy. Just made me miss Barbosa. Boston's PG Bradley has the game I wish i'd see at our PG. He CONTINUALLY drove to the basket.John Lucas is a problem. Casey has to talk with him. Twice he was under the basket against KG alone. Lowry honestly couldn't even rest in the 4th qtr, cause Lucas was crapping up the court sooooo much.

    Understand you can't play Ross in the 3rd or 4th of this game. Think the C's would have killed him. He could have played more in that brutal 2nd qtr. Raptors had alot of steals which was nice to see. Defense was ok.

    Think we lost the game the same way we always do. We missed three(3) consecutive three(3) point shots. The Celtics went after Bargs. He should not have been in the game that long, his defense is to poor. Also upset DD wasn't in the game with 6:00 left in the 4th qtr. Understand Rudy Gay gets the last shot, just a shame he has to rebound as well. WHY CAN'T WE INBOUND THE BASKETBALL. Just simply in-bounding the ball to have a chance to win is so basic. RAPTORS HAVE LOST GAMES & this is still happening. All of these things are Casey's fault. This has to be addressed. I am not saying toss the baby out with the bath water, but my MAIN concern in this game was how we executed. That is Casey's fault.
    Would Casey allow that in Toronto though?

    Lowry was a constant penetration threat (heinz, I set you up) for the last few seasons. Now he is relegated to blending his game with that of a recent former Raptor point guard. I hope with the addition of Gay and his ability to get his own shot, Lowry can stop focusing on the spoon feeding of others and get back to what he does best. The game versus Boston showed a glimpse that I hope becomes more consistent moving forward.

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  • RepRaptorsintheUSA
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Seriously.
    I admire Casey for the respect he gets from his players and the effort for the overwhelmingly majority of games. Unfortunately as time goes along I am starting to think he is a fantastic, championship caliber assistant coach..... not a head coach.
    Quick notes about the Boston game i hadn't posted.
    Lowry had a great 3rd qtr. When he driving & looking to dish he was helping. It was impressive he was getting rebounds. Other then that I wasn't happy. Just made me miss Barbosa. Boston's PG Bradley has the game I wish i'd see at our PG. He CONTINUALLY drove to the basket.John Lucas is a problem. Casey has to talk with him. Twice he was under the basket against KG alone. Lowry honestly couldn't even rest in the 4th qtr, cause Lucas was crapping up the court sooooo much.

    Understand you can't play Ross in the 3rd or 4th of this game. Think the C's would have killed him. He could have played more in that brutal 2nd qtr. Raptors had alot of steals which was nice to see. Defense was ok.

    Think we lost the game the same way we always do. We missed three(3) consecutive three(3) point shots. The Celtics went after Bargs. He should not have been in the game that long, his defense is to poor. Also upset DD wasn't in the game with 6:00 left in the 4th qtr. Understand Rudy Gay gets the last shot, just a shame he has to rebound as well. WHY CAN'T WE INBOUND THE BASKETBALL. Just simply in-bounding the ball to have a chance to win is so basic. RAPTORS HAVE LOST GAMES & this is still happening. All of these things are Casey's fault. This has to be addressed. I am not saying toss the baby out with the bath water, but my MAIN concern in this game was how we executed. That is Casey's fault.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    slaw wrote: View Post
    Last night was just another indication of how far away this team is from competing.

    At home, healthy, against a depleted team you need to beat. Proceed to blow huge 4th quarter lead.

    The last two lottery pick combined for 7 minutes.

    The problem with trying to win now is that you actually have to win. If you don't win, and you don't develop your young players, what exactly are you doing? Team baffles me.
    Seriously.

    Personally though, I think this team has enough talent to compete for that 8th seed had they played together all season and I don't think the game versus Boston should have been close. I am fully willing to admit I might be a delusional homer on this but that is how I feel.

    My frustrations:
    1) offensive sets are not playing to the strengths of the players on the roster,
    2) defense is awful,
    3) young guys are not playing any significant minutes,
    4) AA is the focal point of the offense with Lowry, Gay, DD, and Bargnani on the floor... at the same f*&$#*#@ TIME!

    I admire Casey for the respect he gets from his players and the effort for the overwhelmingly majority of games. Unfortunately as time goes along I am starting to think he is a fantastic, championship calibre assistant coach..... not a head coach.

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  • Nilanka
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    slaw wrote: View Post
    I am not in Casey's head but I highly doubt it's about accountability. They are trying to win and Casey believes the best way to do that is to play the vets. Don't think there is anything more to it than that.
    It's totally about winning. Coaches on 2 year deals are only concerned about one thing...their resumes.

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  • slaw
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    DoNDaDDa wrote: View Post
    i think DC is trying to hold the rookies accountable hence why Ross didnt play much after allowing a couple drives early... the prob i have with that is if your going to hold guys accountable u HAVE TO hold everyone accountable even the vet scrubs like AA, it doesnt send a good message to the rooks if the vets on the bench always get burn even when they suck! yet they make 1 mistake & get benched.. AA defence is over rated IMO he cant do anything that Ross hasnt already done!
    I am not in Casey's head but I highly doubt it's about accountability. They are trying to win and Casey believes the best way to do that is to play the vets. Don't think there is anything more to it than that.

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  • DoNDaDDa
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    i think DC is trying to hold the rookies accountable hence why Ross didnt play much after allowing a couple drives early... the prob i have with that is if your going to hold guys accountable u HAVE TO hold everyone accountable even the vet scrubs like AA, it doesnt send a good message to the rooks if the vets on the bench always get burn even when they suck! yet they make 1 mistake & get benched.. AA defence is over rated IMO he cant do anything that Ross hasnt already done!

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  • CalgaryRapsFan
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    slaw wrote: View Post
    Last night was just another indication of how far away this team is from competing.

    At home, healthy, against a depleted team you need to beat. Proceed to blow huge 4th quarter lead.

    The last two lottery pick combined for 7 minutes.

    The problem with trying to win now is that you actually have to win. If you don't win, and you don't develop your young players, what exactly are you doing? Team baffles me.
    I don't get it either. We all know it will take a minor miracle for this team to have a realistic shot at the playoffs.

    How Anderson gets any playing time over Ross or Fields (when healthy), is beyond me.

    I thought last night was a great game to get Valanciunas some playing time against Boston's 2nd unit (matched up against Collins), while Bargnani/Gray played against Garnett.

    Rebuild, retooling, whatever... I don't care what you call it, just give more playing time to the players that are the future of this franchise!

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  • slaw
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    Last night was just another indication of how far away this team is from competing.

    At home, healthy, against a depleted team you need to beat. Proceed to blow huge 4th quarter lead.

    The last two lottery pick combined for 7 minutes.

    The problem with trying to win now is that you actually have to win. If you don't win, and you don't develop your young players, what exactly are you doing? Team baffles me.

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  • DoNDaDDa
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    im starting to wonder if Lowry was beefin with DC cause he wanted to start, or if he thinks DC is a shit coach! if only we could have kept Triano around as an offensive coordinator..

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  • phez
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    dont worry guys it was THE CELTICS what else did you expect?

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  • Rapstor4Life
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    You can blame, chemistry and such but I dont buy that completely or even on Coach Casey he outcoached Rivers in the 3rd zone, zone ,man ,zone,man kept making Cs confused it was great. The execution of Lucas and Anderson making awful decisions and having 6 turnovers in the 4th killed the team.

    Lucas and Anderson have got to learn they are role players not franchise talent! The Raps were talented enough to just close out this game and win we need better guys off the bench that arent selfish chuckers.
    Last edited by Rapstor4Life; Thu Feb 7, 2013, 09:36 AM.

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  • Puffer
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    Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    The Raps played well the loss is on Lucas and Anderson. The ball movement dies with those 2 out.
    Damn. It used to die when AB was out there. I missed most of the game and forgot to pvr it. But AB looked engaged in the fourth from what I could see. Raps execution was crap for the most part in the fourth. And stupid turnovers. Who tries to throw a low overhand pass over an opposing player? Got taught not to do that in high school.

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  • Rapstor4Life
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    The Raps played well the loss is on Lucas and Anderson. The ball movement dies with those 2 out.

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  • Machine
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    torch19 wrote: View Post
    Being perimeter oriented doesn't mean you need 4 guys standing outside the 3 point line ball watching. You're bailing the defense out simply by standing around. You can adapt a drive and kick offense, to open things up and use the kind of spacing Bargnani gives, but we're not that type of team either because we don't have shooters all around.

    Bargnani would be really good if we had multiple ball handlers who can run the pick and roll effectively at the level where defenses have to collapse, but we don't have that either.

    All I'm saying is, why not use the middle of the floor too? After all, it is closer to the basket. Using the middle of the floor opens up the offense for ball movement, man movement, etc.
    we dont execute in the forth.. we get outcoached.. we have the wrong people on the floor.. run the wrong plays.. dont play defense.. we lose... and we look horrible doing it

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  • torch19
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    FoxMachine wrote: View Post
    with all due respect.. when we have 2 wings in our starting lineup who aren't good at shooting 3's and are good at driving, we need a 4 like bargnani (or any other stretch 4) who spaces the floor.. Memphis traded gay cause he couldn't be as useful in their system with 2 bigs stuffing the middle.. we are a perimeter oriented team.. plain and simple.. would be nice to have a center that could post up tho, which we don't have
    Being perimeter oriented doesn't mean you need 4 guys standing outside the 3 point line ball watching. You're bailing the defense out simply by standing around. You can adapt a drive and kick offense, to open things up and use the kind of spacing Bargnani gives, but we're not that type of team either because we don't have shooters all around.

    Bargnani would be really good if we had multiple ball handlers who can run the pick and roll effectively at the level where defenses have to collapse, but we don't have that either.

    All I'm saying is, why not use the middle of the floor too? After all, it is closer to the basket. Using the middle of the floor opens up the offense for ball movement, man movement, etc.
    Last edited by torch19; Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:18 AM.

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