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  • Axel
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    drunkmunky wrote: View Post
    12 points would be half of what we expect from him had he not been injured.
    Yes, but that is exactly the point. He was injured and played reasonably well in his return. We desperately need some shooting the line-up to space the floor, and Bargnani can fill that roll.

    Once healthy, I'd be happy if Barg's scored 16 pts as long as he is shooting around 46% and playing minutes suitable for his new role.

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  • Scarsville
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    Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    Bargnani is actually a great player when he is invested when he isnt chucking and choosing when to take shots hes dangerous and his one on one defense is actually really good, its the switches and helping he sucks with. If he wasnt soaking up so much Green he would likely be easier to move and be a good keep honestly but as it is now! no hes gotta go we moved Calderon the last remainder of our losing culture is still here with Bargnani, I want the Raps to start next season fresh and see more games like that LA Clippers one cause the base pieces are there to do that night in night out but theres more pieces on the team at the moment that dont fit that style.

    What about the Young Gunz?? Demar??? he wasn't exactly helping us win

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  • Rapstor4Life
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    Bargnani is actually a great player when he is invested when he isnt chucking and choosing when to take shots hes dangerous and his one on one defense is actually really good, its the switches and helping he sucks with. If he wasnt soaking up so much Green he would likely be easier to move and be a good keep honestly but as it is now! no hes gotta go we moved Calderon the last remainder of our losing culture is still here with Bargnani, I want the Raps to start next season fresh and see more games like that LA Clippers one cause the base pieces are there to do that night in night out but theres more pieces on the team at the moment that dont fit that style.

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  • Craiger
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    BallaBalla wrote: View Post
    HAHA! this thread was for you Craiger!

    seriously though...the main message here is: why is there any significance being put on what happens to our second or third guy coming off the bench? Thats the way I look at it


    To the bolded - putting financial issues aside (which are still important), there should unquestionably be less importance put on players with smaller roles than those with larger roles. But, this organization has yet to prove they actually view Bargnani any different than the always have. I know Colangelo has said alot in regards to Bargnani or this team, but he always says alot without it necessarily being reflected on the court or how he runs the organization.

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  • drunkmunky
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    This is so Canadian.

    He shows a little bit of his talent after sitting out for 2 months and not doing his job, and all of a sudden there is an urge to appreciate him again.

    12 points would be half of what we expect from him had he not been injured.

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  • Axel
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    BasketballCrush wrote: View Post
    He was okay. Lets not get ahead of ourselves, and purge our guilt too early. He had 3 rebounds, and 12 points, couldn't hit an open 3pt shot. if this is the moment where we drop to our knees and beg for forgiveness, than sadly we are still attached with an umbilical cord to this man.
    12 points isn't that bad considering the lay-off he had. Couldn't take shooting practice for 7 weeks and started 4 of 5 from the field. Struggled as the game progressed, but msot players do coming off extended injuries. Overall, a very good game for all things considered.

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  • BasketballCrush
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    He was okay. Lets not get ahead of ourselves, and purge our guilt too early. He had 3 rebounds, and 12 points, couldn't hit an open 3pt shot. if this is the moment where we drop to our knees and beg for forgiveness, than sadly we are still attached with an umbilical cord to this man.

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  • BallaBalla
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    Craiger wrote: View Post
    sigh.......
    HAHA! this thread was for you Craiger!

    seriously though...the main message here is: why is there any significance being put on what happens to our second or third guy coming off the bench? Thats the way I look at it

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  • Craiger
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    sigh.......

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  • Axel
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    I feel like we are going in circles with Barg's. Last year we hated him until he put together the "13" stretch and we loved him. We started this season with high expectations and he was a colossal disappointment. We've wanted him gone for weeks now while he rehabbed, now he is back and the roster is different, perhaps he has a place?

    Personally, long-term he still has to be traded because the team needs a different direction. But in the meantime, I think he can play very well as the 3rd or 4th option on the team. He has the shooting to space the floor for Gay, Lowry, and Demar to crash the hoop. He can still defend 1v1 in the post and still can't rotate to help. For all the negatives of late, if he can play well in a reduced role then I have no problem keeping for this year (and maybe next year). Bargnani would be an interesting player to have on an expiring contract in a couple of years. Size, shooting and cap space?

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  • BallaBalla
    started a topic Bargs Ain't So Bad...

    Bargs Ain't So Bad...

    I've hated him for a while (still do) but last night's effort from him made me look at the positives

    1. Arguably the best one on one post defender on the team
    2. Mobile big to spell Amir (instead of AIRon)
    3. 7 footer who can shoot 3's and score in bunches in limited minutes if he is on

    as a 7th-9th man, why can't there be a place for him?

    let the bashing begin!
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