LeBron James vs Larry Bird

[The Great One]

Mark Jackson last night said during the Heat/Pacers game that LeBron James is the greatest SF of all time. So i ask you, who do you think is the greatest SF of all time? Bird or LeBron? and why?

[BobLoblaw]

Well, LeBron has everything here except the rings. He has better career numbers, better peak numbers, better playoff numbers, more individual awards. He also played in a slower pace era than Larry Bird, so his numbers are less inflated.

If LeBron wins another ring in a couple weeks, he will have 3 just like Bird, and at that point it will become too obvious to debate.

And he's just 29. He will keep adding.

I would pick him already. If someone wouldn't, that's fair enough for now. But soon it will become one sided.

[yabadabayolo]

Lebrun is best player to ever play the game so yeah

[Mr.Z]

Lebrun is best player to ever play the game so yeah

Jordan is the best to ever play.

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[Vykis]

Jordan is the best to ever play.

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Nah, man, Red Mamba is the best to ever play

[Apollo]

LeBron. Hate to say it but it's a fact.

Jordan and maybe Magic over LeBron though.

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[007]

LeBron is a complete beast and the best SF ever, as much as it pains me to say it.

[The Great One]

LeBron. Hate to say it but it's a fact.

Jordan and maybe Magic over LeBron though.

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So you're saying LeBron is already greater than Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Robertson, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe?

LeBron might end up as one of the top 5 greatest ever. But right now he's not even in my top 10.

[Apollo]

Natural abilities, yes. Accomplishments, no.

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[NoPropsneeded]

Ima let you finish but MJ is the greatest player of all time!...ALL TIME!

[BobLoblaw]

So you're saying LeBron is already greater than Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Robertson, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe?

LeBron might end up as one of the top 5 greatest ever. But right now he's not even in my top 10.

If LeBron retired today, people would debate LeBron vs. Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, etc until they turn blue. Kareem is the one name who's clearly greater. And Robertson is the one name who shouldn't be on your list, LeBron has clearly accomplished more than him already.

[yabadabayolo]

I hate lebron, but I have to admit, he is best to ever lace them up. Even with this loss, he's was the best player in that series respects to him

[Miekenstien]

i am of the apollo mind. but i might add shaq, and definitely would if he hit 75% of free throws.

mj, magic. magic was incredible.

i always find the best way to decide is an all time draft.
if you had the first pick for an all ages team who would you choose?

has to be jordan, why bet against that guy?

[Superjudge]

Michael Jordan..... hmm.

Best Player of his era. Lebron best of his.

Its silly to compare era's. If you HAVE to..... neither of these guys touches Bill Russell, Wily, Big O or Baylor. I dont think anyhow. The NBA wasn't a fixed promotion affair back then. Jordan was a very good player, but he was also very, VERY fortunate to be the shiny face of Sterns new marketing machine. The guy was promoted, protected and put in place to succeed every single game. Players couldn't guard him, unless it was a rivalry series that was going 6-7 games because it was good for numbers. But for th emost part, he either shot and made it, or there was a foul called for him. On defence, he was clever, but got away with pure murder.

MJ isnt he greatest of all time, sorry boys.

[JawsGT]

Michael Jordan..... hmm.

Best Player of his era. Lebron best of his.

Its silly to compare era's. If you HAVE to..... neither of these guys touches Bill Russell, Wily, Big O or Baylor. I dont think anyhow. The NBA wasn't a fixed promotion affair back then. Jordan was a very good player, but he was also very, VERY fortunate to be the shiny face of Sterns new marketing machine. The guy was promoted, protected and put in place to succeed every single game. Players couldn't guard him, unless it was a rivalry series that was going 6-7 games because it was good for numbers. But for th emost part, he either shot and made it, or there was a foul called for him. On defence, he was clever, but got away with pure murder.

MJ isnt he greatest of all time, sorry boys.

I agree about comparing eras. For me, it's difficult to discount the top players from the early NBA. I can look at stats and what not, but I really have no idea how good or dominant a guy like Russel or Wilt really was. How difficult was it for those guys to dominate in the league at that time is impossible for me to say. Even Kareem, Magic, and Bird were before my time as a fan, so I find it hard to judge those guys as well. I did watch Jordan, and he was amazing, but I didn't look at him or the game of basketball like I do now. And I don't doubt what you said that Jordan benefited from the whistle moreso than most. That's probably true as well. Would Jordan dominate to the same extent in today's NBA, or Wilt or Russel or whomever? Hard to say really.

Who's better, Orr, Gretzky or Crosby? Different era issue again. When Sidney retires, I doubt many would say he was better than Gretzky, but at no point in his career did Gretzky have to deal with same level of physicality that Crosby experiences game in and game out. So it makes you wonder, if Crosby had played in Gretzky's time, where would he stack up?