#FireCasey

[golden]

Shrug. Then why isn't he playing at all? Why was he drafted so late if he's this good? You can find pre-draft quotes about any player in the draft.

Portis isn't playing because Mirotic has emerged to grab major minutes. A former DPOY, Noah, is coming off the bench, but you still need to give him big minutes. And then you have Taj Gibson and even Dougie Fresh McBucketts competing for some PF minutes. Bulls are loaded in the front court with no room for Portis.

999 has a good point, though. PF was a position of known weakness for the Raps, and has been for some time. On draft day we didn't even have Biz, Scola or Anthony Bennett, fwiw.

Masai drafted Delon Wright on the premise that he could play right away and help shore up the perimeter defense. The interviews with Casey after the Delon pick, seem to indicate that he was highly endorsed by Casey. So, IMO, this looks like Masai taking Casey at this word, i.e., getting Casey "his guys" to be able to execute "his defense" and MU complying by drafting 2 perimeter defenders in Wright and Powell. IF Casey highly influenced the Wright pick and Portis turns out much better than Wright, then MU made the same mistake BC did with Ross over Drummond. Talent, fit and upside all tilted towards the Raps selecting Portis on draft day, as the best overall pick.

[Nilanka]

In not unrelated news, Lou Williams' AST numbers are already back up to his career average after essentially bottoming out under Casey (lowest mark in past 8 seasons), and GV's AST's before and after Casey look like this: 5.3 (Sact), 3.7 (Tor), 3.7 (Tor), 5.0 (Mil).

#TheCaseyEffect
#OhRightItsNotTheCoachItsThePlayersIForgot
#QuickFireTheAssistants

*Edited to add awkward hashtags.

Wonder how long it takes for the #CaseyEffect to ruin Joseph's and Carroll's game....

[raptors999]

Yeah, played for Arkansas, went 22nd in the draft, hasn't done shit in the NBA. Do you know who Wright is? If Portis is so great, why did 21 teams pass on him? Why isn't he playing any minutes? Why should I give a fuck about Portis? He may end up being a decent player, so will Wright, we don't know yet because both guys just warm the bench. It has no bearing on how poorly we've played this year, which hotshot tried to imply it does, that our lack of 20th overall picks contributing is why we suck, and not Casey.

Rookie rarely play on teams out of the lottery except in spot roles if then. Wright was taken because he is NBA ready

[Primer]

Portis isn't playing because Mirotic has emerged to grab major minutes. A former DPOY, Noah, is coming off the bench, but you still need to give him big minutes. And then you have Taj Gibson and even Dougie Fresh McBucketts competing for some PF minutes. Bulls are loaded in the front court with no room for Portis.

999 has a good point, though. PF was a position of known weakness for the Raps, and has been for some time. On draft day we didn't even have Biz, Scola or Anthony Bennett, fwiw.

Masai drafted Delon Wright on the premise that he could play right away and help shore up the perimeter defense. The interviews with Casey after the Delon pick, seem to indicate that he was highly endorsed by Casey. So, IMO, this looks like Masai taking Casey at this word, i.e., getting Casey "his guys" to be able to execute "his defense" and MU complying by drafting 2 perimeter defenders in Wright and Powell. IF Casey highly influenced the Wright pick and Portis turns out much better than Wright, then MU made the same mistake BC did with Ross over Drummond. Talent, fit and upside all tilted towards the Raps selecting Portis on draft day, as the best overall pick.

What was Casey supposed to say? "This guy sucks, Fuck Masai, Pound the Rock god dammit!" Masai does all the homework on the draft picks and makes the picks, not Casey. Or do you think Masai decided to take it easy this year after doing so much homework on Bruno last year? You guys are nutty man. Masai thought Wright was the BPA so he took him, it's that simple. Masai is always looking at the long game, Wright being "NBA ready" was just a bonus, or another of the myriad of factors that made him BPA in Masai's eyes.

[Primer]

Rookie rarely play on teams out of the lottery except in spot roles if then. Wright was taken because he is NBA ready

Bold is true, and it applies to Wright as well, and it would have applied to Portis if we had drafted him, he wouldn't be playing over Patterson and Scola, he'd be warming the bench like Wright.

Wright was taken because Masai thought he was the BPA. Being NBA ready means the player is good, it's a good thing, not a bad thing. The way you talk about Portis sounds like he was NBA ready as well. That's not a knock, thats good.

[raptors999]

What was Casey supposed to say? "This guy sucks, Fuck Masai, Pound the Rock god dammit!" Masai does all the homework on the draft picks and makes the picks, not Casey. Or do you think Masai decided to take it easy this year after doing so much homework on Bruno last year? You guys are nutty man. Masai thought Wright was the BPA so he took him, it's that simple. Masai is always looking at the long game, Wright being "NBA ready" was just a bonus, or another of the myriad of factors that made him BPA in Masai's eyes.

It's also like Steimsa why take a guy with no upside if you don't play him. Even with CoJo, Wright looks to be behind Powell on the depth chart. Biggest take-away is Casey shouldnt be asked to evaluate players. He's god awful

[Primer]

It's also like Steimsa why take a guy with no upside if you don't play him. Even with CoJo, Wright looks to be behind Powell on the depth chart. Biggest take-away is Casey shouldnt be asked to evaluate players. He's god awful

We didn't draft Steimsma, he was a vet min to fill out the last spot on the bench. Wright and Powell play different positions. We're very deep at PG so Wright doesn't play. Ross is hurt so Powell plays some, it's not rocket science.

[A.I]

It's also like Steimsa why take a guy with no upside if you don't play him. Even with CoJo, Wright looks to be behind Powell on the depth chart. Biggest take-away is Casey shouldnt be asked to evaluate players. He's god awful

Powell is playing because he is a SG and Ross is injured. Powell got no minutes before. Wright won't get many minutes either unless Lowry or CoJo get injured.


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[golden]

What was Casey supposed to say? "This guy sucks, Fuck Masai, Pound the Rock god dammit!" Masai does all the homework on the draft picks and makes the picks, not Casey. Or do you think Masai decided to take it easy this year after doing so much homework on Bruno last year? You guys are nutty man. Masai thought Wright was the BPA so he took him, it's that simple. Masai is always looking at the long game, Wright being "NBA ready" was just a bonus, or another of the myriad of factors that made him BPA in Masai's eyes.

There was a theme to Masai's entire off-season, which is pretty obvious - get better defensively - immediately. That is in no way, shape or form "playing the long game" on upside, where you wouldn't be drafting 4-year college players. That looks more like a knee-jerk reaction to the defensive slippage from last season, based on Casey needing his type of players to execute his type of system. Problem is, neither Wright or Powell looks close to having a significant impact on an NBA roster.

The reason this isn't a bigger issue is because nobody knew we'd be able to land CoJo at the time (draft day). Otherwise, Wright is your backup PG and that's a scary thought. Second reason this isn't a bigger issue is because we landed Andy Greer, who has re-vamped the defense so it doesn't require hyper rotations and massive energy output. So, again, the prioritization on drafting defensive minded players seems like an over-reaction to Casey's system and last season's defensive results. Not necessarily "playing the long game" on potential and upside.

Possibly the only time I've ever heard Masai openly criticize Casey was at the end of last season, where he said something like, ..."thing is, coach Casey is a defensive coach, and we have to get back to being a good defensive team...". Later in another interview, Masai took all the blame himself for bringing in guys like Lou and messing with the team chemistry and promised to fix that (which he did by bringing in defensive minded players).

IMO, Masai and MLSE upper brass really love Casey but Masai is also giving him enough rope to hang himself this season, i.e., no excuses.

[white men can't jump]

Yeah, played for Arkansas, went 22nd in the draft, hasn't done shit in the NBA. Do you know who Wright is? If Portis is so great, why did 21 teams pass on him? Why isn't he playing any minutes? Why should I give a fuck about Portis? He may end up being a decent player, so will Wright, we don't know yet because both guys just warm the bench. It has no bearing on how poorly we've played this year, which hotshot tried to imply it does, that our lack of 20th overall picks contributing is why we suck, and not Casey.

Yeah, and the other thing is would Casey be comfortable playing Portis if we drafted him? We drafted Wright, and a lot of people thought there was at least some chance he would be given the chance to earn the backup spot. Then they signed Cojo so that went out the window. Would they still have signed Scola if they drafted Portis? Probably. I mean, they did get a meeting with Aldridge. And then it seems they went straight to their other targets, which included a backup PG despite drafting Wright (obviously a good call the way Cojo is playing and how raw Wright still looks despite being older than most rookies). I feel like the same scenario would've played out no matter who we drafted at 20. Then we'd still have mostly the same roster (not sure if Bennett would've still been a target if they took Portis). There's no way Casey is playing a rookie over Scola and Patterson.

[raptors999]

Powell is playing because he is a SG and Ross is injured. Powell got no minutes before. Wright won't get many minutes either unless Lowry or CoJo get injured.


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Powell can't shoot. Wright is capable of hitting open threes. With Ross and DC out they needed a guard that could shoot.

[S.R.]

I really like how Powell gets after it. If he can ever develop a 3 pt. shot, he'll be a nice player.

[Primer]

There was a theme to Masai's entire off-season, which is pretty obvious - get better defensively - immediately. That is in no way, shape or form "playing the long game" on upside, where you wouldn't be drafting 4-year college players. That looks more like a knee-jerk reaction to the defensive slippage from last season, based on Casey needing his type of players to execute his type of system. Problem is, neither Wright or Powell looks close to having a significant impact on an NBA roster.

The reason this isn't a bigger issue is because nobody knew we'd be able to land CoJo at the time (draft day). Otherwise, Wright is your backup PG and that's a scary thought. Second reason this isn't a bigger issue is because we landed Andy Greer, who has re-vamped the defense so it doesn't require hyper rotations and massive energy output. So, again, the prioritization on drafting defensive minded players seems like an over-reaction to Casey's system and last season's defensive results. Not necessarily "playing the long game" on potential and upside.

Possibly the only time I've ever heard Masai openly criticize Casey was at the end of last season, where he said something like, ..."thing is, coach Casey is a defensive coach, and we have to get back to being a good defensive team...". Later in another interview, Masai took all the blame himself for bringing in guys like Lou and messing with the team chemistry and promised to fix that (which he did by bringing in defensive minded players).

IMO, Masai and MLSE upper brass really love Casey but Masai is also giving him enough rope to hang himself this season, i.e., no excuses.

So 4 year college players have 2 year NBA careers or something? Why can't drafting a 4 year college player be playing the long game? Wright isn't 37 years old, he's 23, he'll be in the league for at least 10 years, which fits nicely into the long game. It was taking the best player available (in Masai's eyes), plain and simple. Wright wasn't drafted to fit Casey's system, and neither was Powell, they were drafted because Masai thinks they'll become good NBA players. When Lowry's deal is up Wright will slide into the CoJo role, that's playing the long game. We have time to develop him further, which is great. If we didn't land CoJo, what's to say we don't target another backup PG? I think we would have, because rookies need time to adjust, even 4 year college players.

The offseason theme was get better, which is what the theme of every offseason should be.

[Primer]

Powell can't shoot. Wright is capable of hitting open threes. With Ross and DC out they needed a guard that could shoot.

Powell can defend the SG and SF positions a lot better than Wright can, which is why he's getting some of those Ross minutes instead of Wright.

[raptors999]

So 4 year college players have 2 year NBA careers or something? Why can't drafting a 4 year college player be playing the long game? Wright isn't 37 years old, he's 23, he'll be in the league for at least 10 years, which fits nicely into the long game. It was taking the best player available (in Masai's eyes), plain and simple. Wright wasn't drafted to fit Casey's system, and neither was Powell, they were drafted because Masai thinks they'll become good NBA players. When Lowry's deal is up Wright will slide into the CoJo role, that's playing the long game. We have time to develop him further, which is great. If we didn't land CoJo, what's to say we don't target another backup PG? I think we would have, because rookies need time to adjust, even 4 year college players.

4 yr players have limited ceilings especially now when 1 and dones are common. Wright will not be guarding Curry or CP3 anytime in the future for a good team. He can give minutes against second units but thats available cheaper than first round rookie deals