#FireCasey

[raptors999]

then you missed my posts where i showed his tenure and the stats and record of the players who have been here all this time.
cause when i come here i don't see "in depth articles" i see "casey sucks" "oh my god he sucks" etc. etc.

There are hundreds of posts in this thread. Every player under Casey becomes incredibly inefficient, the defense didn't work against BKN last season and isn't working against any team this season. Players don't look prepared in first quarters or don't look prepared going into 3rd quarters and random players look unstoppable since nothing is done to stop them. The only adjustment Casey makes is to go small which is baffling for a "defensive" coach. Vogel refused to go small against Atlanta because he would not concede the rim.

[OldSkoolCool]

why would the steady improvement shown year on year not be the proof?

I want to isolate this statement.

In my opinion we haven't improved our play offensively. What has happened during his tenure is the influx of talent. The team is much better constructed than it was 3 seasons ago, hence the better record.

Defensively, we have had a lockout shortened season and 2 months last season of solid defense. That's it. This is supposed to be the guy's bread and butter, so we should consistently be a top 10 team, regardless of circumstances.

[Miekenstien]

There are hundreds of posts in this thread. Every player under Casey becomes incredibly inefficient, the defense didn't work against BKN last season and isn't working against any team this season. Players don't look prepared in first quarters or don't look prepared going into 3rd quarters and random players look unstoppable since nothing is done to stop them. The only adjustment Casey makes is to go small which is baffling for a "defensive" coach. Vogel refused to go small against Atlanta because he would not concede the rim.

bring them up. put up the list of field goal percentage by position in the league. show us how inefficient they are now. that isn't true at all.

this is going to be the only time we haven't improved on defense since he got here. and we are taking a step back for that. but again this goes back to casey loses games and players win in spite of him. which is ridiculous. every game where our points are more than the other teams, the defense was good enough. that get's thrown out because it doesn't suit, "he never adapts". there is a drastic difference in the way the team is playing defence this year compared to the past couple, that argument isn't "casey adapts his play style to suit his players" but has become "he lost the locker room"

it wouldn't matter a bit what coach came here and the people would roast them. if phil jackson was here and we were playing like the new york knicks have been the triangle would be beaten to shit.

people on here are talking about mark jackson being a bad coach, he was a great coach. two of gs players are having career years and curry isn't hobbled by his ankles every second game, bam kerr is the best coach. kyle lowry, jv, lou, 2pat having the best years of their career and casey is wasting them.

it is just a reason after a reason why everyone else is better. it is garbage

[raptors999]

bring them up. put up the list of field goal percentage by position in the league. show us how inefficient they are now. that isn't true at all.

this is going to be the only time we haven't improved on defense since he got here. and we are taking a step back for that. but again this goes back to casey loses games and players win in spite of him. which is ridiculous. every game where our points are more than the other teams, the defense was good enough. that get's thrown out because it doesn't suit, "he never adapts". there is a drastic difference in the way the team is playing defence this year compared to the past couple, that argument isn't "casey adapts his play style to suit his players" but has become "he lost the locker room"

it wouldn't matter a bit what coach came here and the people would roast them. if phil jackson was here and we were playing like the new york knicks have been the triangle would be beaten to shit.

people on here are talking about mark jackson being a bad coach, he was a great coach. two of gs players are having career years and curry isn't hobbled by his ankles every second game, bam kerr is the best coach. kyle lowry, jv, lou, 2pat having the best years of their career and casey is wasting them.

it is just a reason after a reason why everyone else is better. it is garbage

No. I have a life. Just page back

[godkingleonidas]

[Nilanka]

I don't think it's accurate to bring up Casey's entire 4 year tenure when evaluating him. There have been too many changing variables (e.g. GM, assistant coaches, players) to draw any real conclusions from that wide of a window.

IMO, the most accurate window to judge Casey should be since the Gay trade last year. Are we better or worse than 12 months ago? Are we trending upwards or downwards? Are we learning from our repeated mistakes? Are we adapting to opponents' schemes?

[SamMitchells]

We are not adapting to the opponents adjustments except for when they play small we play small.
This team is shitty due to lack of adjustments. That's the key, bingo !

[godkingleonidas]

[Other Scott]

Hmmm

So Casey apologists have you seen enough?

No.

By the way, were some here seriously suggesting this thread should only be for people who hate Casey? Like, you want to dull down discussion and create an echo chamber where only the negative get a voice? That's...interesting.

[Mediumcore]

Man, I wonder if there is a #FireThibs thread on the Bulls forum? 3 loses in a row and playing the worst defense of the Thibs era with the most talented team of his era (as per article on ESPN).

Panic is so contagious.

[Nilanka]

Man, I wonder if there is a #FireThibs thread on the Bulls forum? 3 loses in a row and playing the worst defense of the Thibs era with the most talented team of his era (as per article on ESPN).

Panic is so contagious.

Here you go

http://firejerryangelo.org/2015/02/0...iring-thomass/

http://www.rantsports.com/nba/2014/0...ew-head-coach/

https://www.facebook.com/FireTomThibodeau

[mcHAPPY]

Man, I wonder if there is a #FireThibs thread on the Bulls forum? 3 loses in a row and playing the worst defense of the Thibs era with the most talented team of his era (as per article on ESPN).

Panic is so contagious.

The results are not the issue.

The same issues so many of us are harping on have been brought up long before this stretch of horrible basketball.

I remember when they were 13-2 and in first place being told that was reason enough to relax and/or I didn't know what I was talking about.

Since then they are 20-15.

Since the Portland loss they are 9-9 with all those wins coming against non-playoff teams except a win over Washington in over time and a win over Milwaukee.


There is an evident downward spiral and nothing has been done to change or correct it. In fact, the process is being continuously defended by Casey and he is resorting to laying blame elsewhere - in fact his comments are becoming eerily reminiscent of Colangelo's last season.


I am not sure that firing Casey right now is the answer but his time is up after this season.

[psrs1]

Man, I wonder if there is a #FireThibs thread on the Bulls forum? 3 loses in a row and playing the worst defense of the Thibs era with the most talented team of his era (as per article on ESPN).

Panic is so contagious.

There are many in Chicago calling for his firing. The media has turned on him unlike here where generally most media types are not too critical of DC.

[psrs1]

The results are not the issue.

The same issues so many of us are harping on have been brought up long before this stretch of horrible basketball.

I remember when they were 13-2 and in first place being told that was reason enough to relax and/or I didn't know what I was talking about.

Since then they are 20-15.

Since the Portland loss they are 9-9 with all those wins coming against non-playoff teams except a win over Washington in over time and a win over Milwaukee.


There is an evident downward spiral and nothing has been done to change or correct it. In fact, the process is being continuously defended by Casey and he is resorting to laying blame elsewhere - in fact his comments are becoming eerily reminiscent of Colangelo's last season.


I am not sure that firing Casey right now is the answer but his time is up after this season.

Things changed after the Portland. It is almost as if he has lost the locker room. I agree that he won't be let go until after the season especially if more disappointment for fans come playoff time.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

The results are not the issue.

The same issues so many of us are harping on have been brought up long before this stretch of horrible basketball.

I remember when they were 13-2 and in first place being told that was reason enough to relax and/or I didn't know what I was talking about.

Since then they are 20-15.

Since the Portland loss they are 9-9 with all those wins coming against non-playoff teams except a win over Washington in over time and a win over Milwaukee.


There is an evident downward spiral and nothing has been done to change or correct it. In fact, the process is being continuously defended by Casey and he is resorting to laying blame elsewhere - in fact his comments are becoming eerily reminiscent of Colangelo's last season.


I am not sure that firing Casey right now is the answer but his time is up after this season.

The 3rd quarter in the past two games have been eerily reminiscent of the Rudy Gay era Raptors, with little ball movement and forced perimeter shot after forced perimeter shot. They've taken the 'live and die by the 3' mantra to heart, resting their fates entirely on the game-to-game shooting touch of their chuckers (Lowry, DeRozan, Lou and Vasquez), with DC's blessing.

The frustrating part is that the 1st half of those games have seen fantastic team play and good ball movement, so it's not like the Raptors are incapable of playing that way, despite the coaching staff's claims about not having adequate passers on the roster.

The inconsistent up-and-down defense has characterized DC's entire tenure with the Raptors. This season is a microcosm of the past few years, where they've gone from a horrible defense to top-tier and back and forth.

None of the arguments against DC or the team's style of play are new, or unique to this season at all. The flaws and negative trends are just more pronounced with increased expectations and the team's hot start to the season.