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  • iblastoff wrote: View Post
    casey DID help a contender win the championship.
    Yes. And Jeff Capel helps Mike Kryzewski at Duke. As an assistant coach. He's been a head coach at Oklahoma and a head coach at VCU. Coach K's achievements and capabilities are not his. Capel is obviously a good college coach, but he isn't coach K, and he hasn't been given the top job at one of the top / elite programs. Jeff Capel is young and may get that opportunity, one day. Casey isn't young. And so far he has never been confused with a championship calibre head coach.

    So, we were clearly talking about HEAD coaching. Casey has not demonstrated that he is an elite nba coach. George Karl and Rick Carlisle have. Their head coaching achievements are not his just because he was on their staff.

    I think against top level coaching in the nba, assuming we have the talent moving forward to be contenders, Casey will get out coached. I want our team to have a top head coach in the nba to give ourselves the best chance of being conference champions then nba championsin the coming years.

    I sleep pretty easy on this. Because I think the Toronto situation / opportunity will be an attractive one moving forward for a top notch head coach.

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    • Dino4life wrote: View Post
      The bold makes no sense whatsoever.

      Didn't say it was based on his stint in dallas, i said it worked in dallas, where he got it, only he knows.

      Then you talk like we became shit this year compared to last year, we're where we were last year except we didn't start 6-12.

      I don't remember Nick Nurse getting the credit, the players got the credit because after Rudy left, the ball started moving everyone was involved. Then Demar made the all-star game, he got a free pass, Greivis was taking wild shots but he made most of them, so now he has a free pass, Lou Williams the back to back milwake-cleveland where he made 7 end of quarter 3s in a row was fun i admit, but its february and i don't he's made one since, yet he's still allowed to dribble the ball for 20 seconds everytime. So basically the team is struggling and coincidently we're back to old habits, Demar moves the ball we win.

      IT's on the players but it is casey's job to keep the guys in check not nick nurse, Nurse can't call a timeout, he can't sub-out a player.

      JV very few people think he's Marc Gasol 2.0. But he's been young for 3 years, is punking Greg Steimsa in practice really gonna take him to the next level ? Kyle & Demar are the foundation we know that, doesn't mean you have to be all inside or all perimeter. The double standards is what gets to people, JV makes mistakes and gets punked sometimes obviously, but that same criteria doesn't apply to Casey favorites like Lou & Vazquez, and like i was mentioning that's been a pattern since he's been here. I was gonna forgive for the hell or high water thing, because i thought it came from colangelo, but Bargs & BC are both gone and the pattern stays the same. Plz explain the JV & JJ benching even when they play well the first 3 quarters ? Casey just has a premonition that they will fuck it up in the 4th ? its stubbornness.

      People are getting sad, but please tell me, we were doing good at the beginning of the season, the league figured the team out, besides Ross the players are the same, What changes and adjustments have you seen Casey make ?

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      • mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
        Post and no one replies. :*(

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        • This thread hasn't de-evolved at all.

          raptors999 wrote: View Post
          A coach should have had some success anywhere as head coach before becoming an NBA HC. Whether it's college, d-league or Europe. Casey seems to have problem at the macro level, large decision issues that coaches iron out by being successful somewhere. Micro level X and O strategy some people never get, not everyone is Bobby Fischer but even leading a team far into an NIT tournament requires organization and a coherent game plan.
          I strongly disagree. Macro is fine. Every year he's been here the team has improved. His micro level decisions can be painful (when to use a player, call timeouts,etc), but the uptick in wins, with essentially the same players (and an evolving bench) speaks to that.

          psrs1 wrote: View Post
          He used to compare AB to Dirk. What a joke.
          RIGHT...that had nothing to do with COLANGELO breathing down his neck AT ALL. As everyone on this thread over 16 will agree: Sometimes you have to say things you disagree with, and do things you don't like to get/keep your job.

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          • Thread over 3 weeks old and Casey still not canned.

            We better start calling and threatening to cancel our seasons tickets.
            If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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            • 3inthekeon wrote: View Post
              Thread over 3 weeks old and Casey still not canned.

              We better start calling and threatening to cancel our seasons tickets.
              lol are you serious? I think we all understand that if Casey's getting fired this year, it's after the playoffs.

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              • blackjitsu wrote: View Post
                This thread hasn't de-evolved at all.



                I strongly disagree. Macro is fine. Every year he's been here the team has improved. His micro level decisions can be painful (when to use a player, call timeouts,etc), but the uptick in wins, with essentially the same players (and an evolving bench) speaks to that.



                RIGHT...that had nothing to do with COLANGELO breathing down his neck AT ALL. As everyone on this thread over 16 will agree: Sometimes you have to say things you disagree with, and do things you don't like to get/keep your job.
                Depends on what you define as macro and micro. IMHO Macro decisions are pretty uncreative and just doing non-crazy stuff. Setting lineups, rotations, balancing an offence inside-outside, timeouts and play out of timeouts. Things that are done before games and between quarters. Micro moves are strategic and creative and fail as often as it succeeds. Even good coaches make bad decisions that impact a single plays or a few possessions.

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                • I want Casey canned at all-star break

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                  • I think I'm good with Casey

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                    • Mindlessness wrote: View Post
                      lol are you serious? I think we all understand that if Casey's getting fired this year, it's after the playoffs.
                      Of course I'm not serious.

                      I don't think one person in the "fire Casey" camp on this board purchased seasons tickets

                      Half of us probably haven't even bought one ticket this year.
                      If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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                      • 3inthekeon wrote: View Post
                        Of course I'm not serious.

                        I don't think one person in the "fire Casey" camp on this board purchased seasons tickets

                        Half of us probably haven't even bought one ticket this year.
                        I did. Have had them for a 7 years. Casey isn't good

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                        • just took out a couple of good west squads..... second in east with only kinda good players. Yeah, fire the coach.

                          Sat a guy down that clearly did something bad enough in the room to warrant it, had lifted the ban, player is instrumental in two quality wins.


                          Yeah, fire that guy.


                          I can;t say what I really think here for fear of another 24 hour break.... but fuck guys, you dudes need to either get a crash course on this shit, or pick another sport.

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                          • e_wheazhy_ wrote:
                            #FireOldSkoolCool
                            Ha!

                            And yet taking JV out of the game in the last 2 minutes so Duncan could get the Spurs multiple three point attempts late was a great coaching coach?

                            They won, but the starting lineup was fantastic, not the coaching tactics.

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                            • OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
                              Ha!

                              And yet taking JV out of the game in the last 2 minutes so Duncan could get the Spurs multiple three point attempts late was a great coaching coach?

                              They won, but the starting lineup was fantastic, not the coaching tactics.
                              That was just a commentary on how we are quick to dismiss someone's comments/ opinions/expertise when it doesn't fit conventional wisdom
                              A key that opens many locks is a master key, but a lock that gets open by many keys is just a shitty lock

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                              • Superjudge wrote: View Post
                                just took out a couple of good west squads..... second in east with only kinda good players. Yeah, fire the coach.

                                Sat a guy down that clearly did something bad enough in the room to warrant it, had lifted the ban, player is instrumental in two quality wins.


                                Yeah, fire that guy.


                                I can;t say what I really think here for fear of another 24 hour break.... but fuck guys, you dudes need to either get a crash course on this shit, or pick another sport.

                                Worked for GSW

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