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As some have mentioned, I don't care that Bennett is Canadian, I care that he is a lottery pick that is available for what would seem to be something affordable. He is a mobile power forward in the Mold of Paul Millsap. While Millsap was a second round pick and given more of a chance early than Bennett has, I could see Bennett having close to the same career peak that Millsap is experiencing now.
I don't see what is wrong with grabbing him now so that we have some control over him rather then over paying as a restricted free agent of missing out as a free agent. We have lottery pick owed to us for 2016 so we can afford to let our own pick go. Bennett also gives you a player with 2 years (3 years for next year) experience rather than trying to mesh more rookies into to a team that is getting ready to compete.Twitter @WJ_FINDLAY
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WJF wrote: View PostAs some have mentioned, I don't care that Bennett is Canadian, I care that he is a lottery pick that is available for what would seem to be something affordable. He is a mobile power forward in the Mold of Paul Millsap. While Millsap was a second round pick and given more of a chance early than Bennett has, I could see Bennett having close to the same career peak that Millsap is experiencing now.
I don't see what is wrong with grabbing him now so that we have some control over him rather then over paying as a restricted free agent of missing out as a free agent. We have lottery pick owed to us for 2016 so we can afford to let our own pick go. Bennett also gives you a player with 2 years (3 years for next year) experience rather than trying to mesh more rookies into to a team that is getting ready to compete.
When the team is trying to position itself for free agency, those overpaid deals are a problem.
I don't think people have completely given up on him, but he isn't a value target. If he were, Minnesota wouldn't be shopping him. If not his salary, why would Minnesota be shopping him? They clearly need talent and his connection to Wiggins can only help the team.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Snooch wrote: View PostI can see an LJ type of player honestly, if he just stays healthy and takes his eating seriously....which seems to me he has been.
He is athletic enough to be a very effective 3rd or 4th man in the offense. Like a Ppat type of guy.
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LJ2 wrote: View PostWhoa, whoa, whoa! He has the build/size of LJ, but he is a long way from having the game. He's closer to Anthony Mason than LJ or Sir Charles. I would pass until he shows he belongs in this league.
And totally agree with bold.
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Axel wrote: View PostI think most of it boils down to dollars. Even on a rookie scale deal, he is overpaid and would need significant improvement to even reach "fair" status.
When the team is trying to position itself for free agency, those overpaid deals are a problem.
I don't think people have completely given up on him, but he isn't a value target. If he were, Minnesota wouldn't be shopping him. If not his salary, why would Minnesota be shopping him? They clearly need talent and his connection to Wiggins can only help the team.
If Bennett gave us this year what Patterson gave us last year would you say his 5.5 mil is a big over pay? If next year he continues his development and puts up say 11 and 7.5 on decent numbers is 7.3 poor value? I don't see his contract as being a hindrance for what he can bring to the table.
By no means is he a sure thing, but I think we finally got a second round pick in Powell that will be a roster player for us, add in what looks like a developing Bruno and Wright, we can afford to take a risk on giving up next years pick for a guy who seems to have toughness we need. It sure is nice to see a guy tear the rim off every now and then!
We have made a few conservative moves that have upgraded the roster nicely in CoJo, Carroll, and Scola, why not take a risk when we have a chance to do it and it really wont hurt our future at all.Twitter @WJ_FINDLAY
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planetmars wrote: View PostCan AB play defense? That has to be a very critical component to any PF that we sign/trade for. It's the reason why I don't really care for Tristan Thompson and why I'm intrigued about Markief Morris.
I think that AB and Thompson both have the ability to guard screen roll well and the strength and length to hold the post. I can't say how they do do with rotations, but I don't think that are any worse than what Morris would bring on that end.Twitter @WJ_FINDLAY
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The big issues AB has had is his conditioning. He came into his rookie year out of shape because he spent the whole summer injured. Than last year when he was starting to get comfortable with the wolves he got injured again and missed 18 games. I think Alex Mckenzie(forgot his last name) would do wonders for him.
How do the wolves try to help his development after he gets hurt? Well they trade for Andrein Payne of course. He got drafted by two teams that's never really been able to develop players unless if they were blue chip talents and were going to be good where ever they went.
The problem with trading for him now is the team that gets him will have to make a quick decision on him without seeing him play for them first. He has a team option for next year for 7.3 mill that has to be decided on by October. His new team would only have two injury ridden seasons, the pam am games and these Olympic qualifier to evaluate him.@Chr1st1anL
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LJ2 wrote: View PostWhoa, whoa, whoa! He has the build/size of LJ, but he is a long way from having the game. He's closer to Anthony Mason than LJ or Sir Charles. I would pass until he shows he belongs in this league.
Hes got good passing and rebounding instincts and has ability to add range to his shot
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He looked better with the Wolves than he did with the Cavs, he looks even better this summer. Seeing progression is a positive sign.
As for the Williams comparisons, Derrick Williams has been given way more of an opportunity to show what he has than AB has. Williams first 2 years in Minny he average 21.5 and 24.6 minutes per game, Bennett's first 2 years, 12.8 and 15.7. Now injuries and team composition has had something to do with it, but it would appear that with minutes and a defined role like he has with team Canada he can produce.Twitter @WJ_FINDLAY
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WJF wrote: View PostHe looked better with the Wolves than he did with the Cavs, he looks even better this summer. Seeing progression is a positive sign.
As for the Williams comparisons, Derrick Williams has been given way more of an opportunity to show what he has than AB has. Williams first 2 years in Minny he average 21.5 and 24.6 minutes per game, Bennett's first 2 years, 12.8 and 15.7. Now injuries and team composition has had something to do with it, but it would appear that with minutes and a defined role like he has with team Canada he can produce.
A number 1 pick averaging just 16 minutes per game on a 33 win team in his second year?
Forget about it.
Masai and Drake want their sit down with KD.
They can sign Bennett in 2 years.
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostOK - lets give him a pass for his rookie season due to surgery recovery.
A number 1 pick averaging just 16 minutes per game on a 33 win team in his second year?
Forget about it.
Masai and Drake want their sit down with KD.
They can sign Bennett in 2 years.
Thad played more minutes than him, and honestly, last season thad was more deserving cause he is a good player, very good in fact imo, he is a solid starter. That isnt a slack against bennet per say.
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I like the "Canadian" angle. It's not just cool to have Canadian players (though it is cool to be the only non-US team), but it's a team-building strength, and an opportunity, when your country's talent-base is taking a big step forward, I think.
The fell-right-off-a-cliff talent situation seems a little fishy. But I just can't say ...
But the dollars just don't work, do they? Seems like we're in the wrong phase of our cycle to take advantage, no?Last edited by Wild-ling#1; Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:14 PM.
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