Everything VanVleet

[The Great One]

Nope. Precious just got out of protocol. By being in contact with someone who was positive. He tested negative daily, was vaxxed but had to sit out the mandated 10 days. Which doesnt make sense cause Lebron went into "protocol" a few weeks ago. WOJ tweeted he could return with 2 negative tests in 24 hours and he was playing 3 days later. Oh ya and Josh richardson missed game to a non-covid illness. Came back played a game, then got put into protocol. Sat out 10 days came back played another game then got put right back into protocol.. They just use the term protocol, but no one really seems to know whats going on.. Every player gets a different protocol it seeems.

That's why this shit is so confusing. Westbrick was placed in protocols the other day but he played for the Lakers the following day. I'm guessing he returned with 2 negative tests in 24 hours? so if you don't return 2 negative tests in 24 hours that means you're positive? so that means Banton, Trent and Siakam all tested positive?

[bertarapsfan]

Listen they were telling us not to wear masks in the beginning and then when they got them in stock and medical care professionals got theirs they told us to wear masks and we were villains for not wearing them. I knew we needed to wear them because all Chinese and asians were wearing them and I trusted them more. But they manipulated media in beginning because they didn't have enough masks.

Keon is right in that the way they needed to be avoid big slogans and treat people like adults. You can still be a carrier and you can still get sick. But this vaccine gives your body more chance to combat the disease and symptoms are way milder. And alternative is worse. But that's not a slogan that gets people behind it. And I blame current culture in the world for it.

Yep. This was the key mistake. Everyone in charge really banked on speaking in simple stick and carrot to a general public. And it is really going to bite them in the ass now. They are 2 polar ends (those who hate vaccines and dont trust gov and those who dont actually mind being locked up in there house and want more restrictions and ever turn). Those 2 actually make up a really small minority of the population.

The majority of us, did what we thought was best, but now it coming to roost and those in charge are acting like it our fault. Nope you made false promises. The tide is going to turn quick on them. Regular everyday people have had enough and trust is at an all time low. Think this is the last time people will respect these mandates and lockdown IMO. I dont expect and political leader regardless of being left or right to survive once this is all said and done. Thats why Truduea and Horgan and others were opportunistic and called elections when they did. They know their days are number and they fumbled the messaging on this from the start

[bertarapsfan]

That's why this shit is so confusing. Westbrick was placed in protocols the other day but he played for the Lakers the following day. I'm guessing he returned with 2 negative tests in 24 hours? so if you don't return 2 negative tests in 24 hours that means you're positive? so that means Banton, Trent and Siakam all tested positive?

Nope cause precious publicly said he tested negative everyday and is vaxxed but still sat out 10 days. He never had it the whole time he missed

[planetmars]

Yep. This was the key mistake. Everyone in charge really banked on speaking in simple stick and carrot to a general public. And it is really going to bite them in the ass now. They are 2 polar ends (those who hate vaccines and dont trust gov and those who dont actually mind being locked up in there house and want more restrictions and ever turn). Those 2 actually make up a really small minority of the population.

The majority of us, did what we thought was best, but now it coming to roost and those in charge are acting like it our fault. Nope you made false promises. The tide is going to turn quick on them. Regular everyday people have had enough and trust is at an all time low. Think this is the last time people will respect these mandates and lockdown IMO. I dont expect and political leader regardless of being left or right to survive once this is all said and done. Thats why Truduea and Horgan and others were opportunistic and called elections when they did. They know their days are number and they fumbled the messaging on this from the start

I don't know.. I saw a poll the other day on a day time television show (might have been breakfast television).. and 84% of the people would get a booster, and were okay with more lockdowns. Was caught off by surprise by that. But it could have also been the demographic watching that show that was more like that 1 extreme you talked about.

[Primer]

Yeah, there is that as well. But I think part of the problem is that they are not technically allowed to export some of the ingredients they use in their vaccine (and again that comes from the US and European goverments).

Anyway the projection is the world won't get vaccinated until 2023:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01762-w

So another 2 years of this sh!t (at least).

I honestly doubt they will ever vaccinate the world, they clearly do not give a shit about poor countries and that's not changing. Malnutrition is one of the top causes of death in Africa and that's preventable by giving them some food. We destroy massive amounts of food instead so prices stay stable. I'm sure you've seen the videos of police defending dumpsters behind grocery stores from homeless people trying to eat the perfectly good food. If you don't have money you're not human to them.

This study has me hopeful we can get back to normal sometime relatively soon though, at least for those who are vaxxed and get a breakthrough infection.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...finds/2711209/

A study, which was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, revealed antibodies in blood samples of those with breakthrough infections were as much as 1,000% times more effective than those generated two weeks following the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

[bertarapsfan]

I don't know.. I saw a poll the other day on a day time television show (might have been breakfast television).. and 84% of the people would get a booster, and were okay with more lockdowns. Was caught off by surprise by that. But it could have also been the demographic watching that show that was more like that 1 extreme you talked about.

Yea. Also i don want to confuse vaccine with the distrust and people frustration with gov handling of this. I think those are to seperate issues.

I can hear it more and more in daily life, people who were fine getting vaccinated and lockdowns and mask manadates. Saying well i followed the rules for 2 years, now i still cant do anything and the people in charge are acting like its my fault? why did i even bother getting vaccinated if things wern't going to change. I did everything i could and now once again 1 week before christmas they are telling me my Aunt and Uncle i havent seen for 2 years cant come over to my house for 3 hours?

[The Great One]

Lewenberg making sense here. This team is in an outbreak. How do you know that the players that will play tomorrow will continue to test negative? Silver is doing a poor job as a commissioner imo.

[Primer]

Lewenberg making sense here. This team is in an outbreak. How do you know that the players that will play tomorrow will continue to test negative? Silver is doing a poor job as a commissioner imo.

Yeah I agree. Just postpone all of our games until January. Everyone should be out of protocol by then.

[The Great One]

I still think they should adapt what the NFL is doing. Stop testing asymptomatic vaccinated players.

[KeonClark]

Yeah I agree. Just postpone all of our games until January. Everyone should be out of protocol by then.

But, will omicron will be finished up in January? 2 options as I see it. Either let asymptomatic & double vaxxed choose to play or not similar to people with colds and flu, or trudge on with g league rosters.

[planetmars]

They should lower protocols from 10 days down to 5 at least. If you are asymptomatic.. and have multiple negative PCR tests. 10 days seems extreme, especially if everyone is double vaxxed.

[Primer]

They should lower protocols from 10 days down to 5 at least. If you are asymptomatic.. and have multiple negative PCR tests. 10 days seems extreme, especially if everyone is double vaxxed.

Just copy what the NFL did. If you're vaxxed and not showing symptoms you do not get tested.

[planetmars]

Just copy what the NFL did. If you're vaxxed and not showing symptoms you do not get tested.

Yeah that's one way.. I think the NBA wants to appear to be doing more since covid is a political issue. The NFL is heading towards their playoffs. NBA is still pretty early in their schedule.

[Kagemusha]

Yeah that's one way.. I think the NBA wants to appear to be doing more since covid is a political issue. The NFL is heading towards their playoffs. NBA is still pretty early in their schedule.

I think so too.
Silver is soooooo stupid.

Oh and recall Dragic.
Why is he getting paid just sitting his lazy ass in his comfy chair?

[golden]

Yeah that's one way.. I think the NBA wants to appear to be doing more since covid is a political issue. The NFL is heading towards their playoffs. NBA is still pretty early in their schedule.

But to the outsider, it appears that the NBA is doing less to protect their players than even than the NHL who paused their season and pulled players out of the Olympics. This is a PR nightmare and makes the league look hypocritical, especially compared to their mostly praised response in 2020 with the bubble.