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  • planetmars wrote: View Post

    Pops team right now is ranked 28th in the league. Why pay Westbrook as much as he does? Or John Wall? How much someone gets paid is a dumb argument here. Owners will spend money as they will. It doesn't mean they are always right. Spurs should get a coach who makes $250K or less and save a tonne of money.
    I was reposnding to Mixx who brought up how much coaches are paid. It was right in the quote box above my post. You saw that right?

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    • planetmars wrote: View Post

      Scottie and Precious are on rookie scale contracts. That's why they make less. They are getting more minutes than Thad. Scottie is starting every game. Management wants to win and develop but ultimately they are not contenders so both are needed.

      So what is Udoka going to do that Nurse isn't? Play Scottie more than he is now? He's already playing a lot.

      Bench Fred? That's not happening if he's back no matter who the coach is. Masai wouldn't allow it.. not since he's going to command about 25% of the cap or more. Otherwise it would be easier to just not bring him back.
      This comes down again to the usage misconception.
      Scottie doesn't need to play more, he just needs to be put in the more appropriate role.
      Your arguments are hilariously extreme, bench Fred, wtf is that. Lol

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      • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

        No dude. This whole thing started with Udoka for Nurse rumors. What are you on? It's all relative. I'm not arguing to get rid of coaches. I'm saying it won't affect the final result
        No man the whole argument here is whether coaching matters or not because PM is adamant it does not matter. No one was saying Udoka is a better coach than Nurse or vice versa.

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        • planetmars wrote: View Post
          LOL.. coaching doesn't matter. Celtics got a new guy and they didn't skip a beat. If we can get a draft pick for Nurse then you do that immediately. But to move coaches for the sake of it is pointless.
          this is what PlanetMars said
          Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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          • planetmars wrote: View Post

            Development is decided by management not coaching. Scottie for example is still getting over 35 minutes a game as a starter. The Raptors organization wants to feature him and so the coach is.

            If you want real development look at the front office, not the head coach. He has to play Fred and Pascal and OG because they get paid the most. He has to play Scottie because the organization wants to pump him up. They have to play Poeltl since they gave up stuff for him at the deadline. It's why WIll fricken Barton gets minutes because we promised those to him when we signed him as a buyout.

            It's the NBA. He's doing what he has to do.
            We gave up stuff for Thad and don't play him.

            Ben Simmons got benched by the Nets and he's the highest paid player on the team and they traded a ton to get him.

            You're just wrong here man.

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            • planetmars wrote: View Post

              How do you define "most"? Mavs were definitely more talented than the Heat.. especially since Lebron had his worst series ever that year.

              If there are a handful of teams that have similar rosters and stars on them, then it will be a random team that wins.. and the coach won't decide the series ultimately. Otherwise guys like Vogel or Rivers wouldn't have rings.
              WHAT?

              Unpack that for me.

              Lebron has a bad series because the Mavs made adjustments to limit him and now Lebron isn't talented and the Mavs are more talented?

              Go roster by roster and explain how that Mavs team was more talented than Big 3 Heat.

              It's considered one of the greatest upsets in NBA history for good reason.

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              • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

                this is what PlanetMars said
                Yeah he said coaching doesn't matter right there in that quote. He's been saying it forever on the boards here.

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                • Primer wrote: View Post

                  Yeah he said coaching doesn't matter right there in that quote. He's been saying it forever on the boards here.
                  But it's true Celtics are doing just as well. And Udoka for Nick Nurse is ultimately pointless. Is it not?
                  Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                  • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

                    But it's true Celtics are doing just as well. And Udoka for Nick Nurse is ultimately pointless. Is it not?
                    The new coach is good too. That's what it means.

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                    • Primer wrote: View Post

                      The new coach is good too. That's what it means.
                      No it means roster is good. LOL
                      Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                      • Coaching does matter to an extent. Talent will always trump it though.

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                        • If coaching doesn't matter why was our 2018 CoTY let go?
                          Last edited by Kagemusha; Fri Mar 31, 2023, 05:14 PM.

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                          • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

                            No it means roster is good. LOL
                            Both are true. Good coach and good roster. That's what it takes to win it all. Coaching matters.

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                            • Kagemusha wrote: View Post
                              If coaching doesn't matter why was our CoTY let go?
                              because him being COTY actually meant jack
                              Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                              • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

                                because him being COTY actually meant jack
                                Well, why not just give him good players then.

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