I'd also like to see a breakdown of how many pull-ups get forced by shot locks and tight D vs. are open. An open pull-up 3 on the break does not come across as a bad shot to me (not thinking by Demar here). Scottie Pippen used to make teams pay with that shot.
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostI'd also like to see a breakdown of how many pull-ups get forced by shot locks and tight D vs. are open. An open pull-up 3 on the break does not come across as a bad shot to me (not thinking by Demar here). Scottie Pippen used to make teams pay with that shot.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostSee, here's the problem. People keep suggesting that DeMar's pull-up percentages are bad because he shoots them in late shot clock situations where we don't have a better shot. Thing is, his 3pt percentage is actually better in the 4-0 shot clock range(38.5%) and the 7-4 shot clock range(44.4%) than it is in the 15-7 shot clock range(21.1%).
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JWash wrote: View Post18.8% with the shot clock off, no need to leave that one out (especially when he's taken that more than the 4-7 and 0-4). It's hard to discern much from just the time left on the shot clock.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostYou know why our true shooting goes up when the Lowry + Bench group is on the floor? It's not because we have better players out there, DeMar's better than anyone in that group but Lowry. It's not because they hit tougher shots either. It's because we move the ball to create a better shot. If the best shot you can get yourself is a terrible one, it's time to trust your teammates.
Trusting his teammates has been a big area of growth for DeMar this season, and it's still an area where he can get a lot better.
And now I think we see DD and KL ready to take a step back, and involve others more - true. You could call that "trusting", I suppose - makes sense. But maybe they themselves are just ready. Just realize that that's the logical next phase for them. Diversify. It's their team, really. And it's pretty damned good.
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Barolt wrote: View PostSee, here's the problem. People keep suggesting that DeMar's pull-up percentages are bad because he shoots them in late shot clock situations where we don't have a better shot. Thing is, his 3pt percentage is actually better in the 4-0 shot clock range(38.5%) and the 7-4 shot clock range(44.4%) than it is in the 15-7 shot clock range(21.1%).
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Wild-ling#1 wrote: View PostI think maybe Casey and Masai figured out that it would be wise to let DeMar and Kyle "have their heads" for awhile. Sorta let them find their own "ceilings" - be "all they can be". It's really no more than creating a player-focused program ... and it may have everything to do with why our all stars are happy ... and staying ... and having career years.
And now I think we see DD and KL ready to take a step back, and involve others more - true. You could call that "trusting", I suppose - makes sense. But maybe they themselves are just ready. Just realize that that's the logical next phase for them. Diversify. It's their team, really. And it's pretty damned good.
Derozan's game has changed dramatically this season mainly due to shot selection. To me it seems much more likely that someone finally sat down and made it clear that he needed to change his approach.
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostI'm talking about pull-ups in general. For Demar I don't think we know the breakdown of when he's shooting more set shots. I'd guess we're finding him good looks with ball movement as the clock winds down. Does anyone have good recollection of the few pull-ups he's taken?twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Wild-ling#1 wrote: View PostI think maybe Casey and Masai figured out that it would be wise to let DeMar and Kyle "have their heads" for awhile. Sorta let them find their own "ceilings" - be "all they can be". It's really no more than creating a player-focused program ... and it may have everything to do with why our all stars are happy ... and staying ... and having career years.
And now I think we see DD and KL ready to take a step back, and involve others more - true. You could call that "trusting", I suppose - makes sense. But maybe they themselves are just ready. Just realize that that's the logical next phase for them. Diversify. It's their team, really. And it's pretty damned good.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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KHD wrote: View Posti don't think so.
Derozan's game has changed dramatically this season mainly due to shot selection. To me it seems much more likely that someone finally sat down and made it clear that he needed to change his approach.
"When the student is ready, the master will appear ..." (Buddha?)
As one person put it:
... Note the word "facilitators" – all education, and thus change, ultimately takes place on the student side. A teacher can light the way and ease the way – in other words, facilitate learning – but the learner has to walk the path. - Bill Wilder, M.Ed. http://www.industryweek.com/blog/whe...er-will-appear
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Barolt wrote: View PostYou know why our true shooting goes up when the Lowry + Bench group is on the floor? It's not because we have better players out there, DeMar's better than anyone in that group but Lowry. It's not because they hit tougher shots either. It's because we move the ball to create a better shot. If the best shot you can get yourself is a terrible one, it's time to trust your teammates.
Trusting his teammates has been a big area of growth for DeMar this season, and it's still an area where he can get a lot better.
The bold is to highlight the good and what many posted endlessly about for years.
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Barolt wrote: View PostSee, here's the problem. People keep suggesting that DeMar's pull-up percentages are bad because he shoots them in late shot clock situations where we don't have a better shot. Thing is, his 3pt percentage is actually better in the 4-0 shot clock range(38.5%) and the 7-4 shot clock range(44.4%) than it is in the 15-7 shot clock range(21.1%).
The rest to me might just be statistical noise with a player as inconsistent with his 3 point jumper as DeMar
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KHD wrote: View Posti don't think so.
Derozan's game has changed dramatically this season mainly due to shot selection. To me it seems much more likely that someone finally sat down and made it clear that he needed to change his approach.
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OldSkoolCool wrote: View PostDD with three straight games with 25 FGAs
Lets get that number south of 20. The team is better when we spread the offense
Still, 30+ points on 25 FGAs with at least 4 assists in 3 wins. That doesn't really get many people clamouring for a strategy change.Two beer away from being two beers away.
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