Everything Derozan

[Just Is]

9th in a very strong draft, while being ranked a top 3 PF (at worst) despite being a full year younger than Julius Randle.

Vonleh in this draft, is Top 5.

Wasn't he projected for top 5 for most of the year (Behind the consensus top 4 of Embiid, Wiggins, Parker and Exum) with most people being genuinely surprised that he fell to 9?

[Axel]

Wasn't he projected for top 5 for most of the year (Behind the consensus top 4 of Embiid, Wiggins, Parker and Exum) with most people being genuinely surprised that he fell to 9?

Yes. The debate was between Vonleh, Randle as top PF with Gordon as a 3/4 hybrid in the mix as well. Plus Stauskas was considered a reach at 8. Most big boards from last year had Vonleh in the 5-7 range.

[mcHAPPY]

Yes. The debate was between Vonleh, Randle as top PF with Gordon as a 3/4 hybrid in the mix as well. Plus Stauskas was considered a reach at 8. Most big boards from last year had Vonleh in the 5-7 range.

DraftExpress had him at 4 until just before draft if I recall correctly.

[SkywalkerAC]

9th in a very strong draft, while being ranked a top 3 PF (at worst) despite being a full year younger than Julius Randle.

Vonleh in this draft, is Top 5.

Even after seeing him as a rookie? Charlotte, the ones with the most information, obviously weren't so keen.

[Axel]

Even after seeing him as a rookie? Charlotte, the ones with the most information, obviously weren't so keen.

lol, Charlotte isn't exactly a mecca of good decisions though are they?

Most responses to the trade seem to be the same around the league, MJ being impatient and hurting the franchise.

[SkywalkerAC]

lol, Charlotte isn't exactly a mecca of good decisions though are they?

Most responses to the trade seem to be the same around the league, MJ being impatient and hurting the franchise.

That organization still knows him better than anyone else at this point. Being traded so early usually doesn't bode well.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

That organization still knows him better than anyone else at this point. Being traded so early usually doesn't bode well.

I view it more as a young team that wants a high-character veteran to lead by example, mentor the young players (ie: MKG), and contribute at a position they wanted to improve. Basically they wanted to add an anti-Lance Stephenson, after seeing the devastating impact he had on the team last season, and the 2 young players (of which they had quite a few) were simply the cost to acquire such a player as Batum.

[SkywalkerAC]

I view it more as a young team that wants a high-character veteran to lead by example, mentor the young players (ie: MKG), and contribute at a position they wanted to improve. Basically they wanted to add an anti-Lance Stephenson, after seeing the devastating impact he had on the team last season, and the 2 young players (of which they had quite a few) were simply the cost to acquire such a player as Batum.

Sure, but if Vonleh were anything close to, say, a young Bosh, you don't throw him in.

[Fully]

You guys are gassing up Vonleh way too much. He's still an intriguing prospect due to his mix of size/skill but a hybrid of Bosh & Love? He couldn't get on the court for a miserable Bobcats team last season and his short stint in the D-league was Bruno-esque. Sometimes when a young buck doesn't get much burn, it's because they aren't ready or aren't good enough yet… not because the coach is stubbornly refusing to play them.

Told Charlotte had concerns about Noah Vonleh's acclimation to NBA. Had difficulties picking up on plays. Questions about his feel for game. - Draftexpress after yesterday's trade.

He's still young/raw enough that he can figure it out but he's not the type of asset that you should move DD for. He's way too much of a gamble.

[Axel]

You guys are gassing up Vonleh way too much. He's still an intriguing prospect due to his mix of size/skill but a hybrid of Bosh & Love? He couldn't get on the court for a miserable Bobcats team last season and his short stint in the D-league was Bruno-esque. Sometimes when a young buck doesn't get much burn, it's because they aren't ready or aren't good enough yet… not because the coach is stubbornly refusing to play them.

Told Charlotte had concerns about Noah Vonleh's acclimation to NBA. Had difficulties picking up on plays. Questions about his feel for game. - Draftexpress after yesterday's trade.

He's still young/raw enough that he can figure it out but he's not the type of asset that you should move DD for. He's way too much of a gamble.

Crazy talk man.

Vonleh got hurt in training camp, so he was way behind by the time he was able to get onto the court to practice. As a 19 yr old, that is a pretty tough set back to overcome.

Factor in Charlotte's obsession with trying to make the playoffs (even with a pretty flawed team) and they wouldn't open the rotation to the talented big.

The Bosh Love comparisons are actually from his draft profile. He is physically more like Bosh but his offence and defence both project to be somewhere between Love/Bosh. A full year younger than fellow draftee Julius Randle to boot.

DD should be gone next year. He is going to get overpaid by someone and it shouldn't be us. Moving him now makes the most sense and Vonleh has a very high ceiling.

[MACK11]

The overvaluing of DD is ridiculous on this forum.

[OldSkoolCool]

The overvaluing of DD is ridiculous on this forum.

They all love DD's off-court stuff...with little regard for his actual on court production (a net zero at best)

[JWash]

They all love DD's off-court stuff...with little regard for his actual on court production (a net zero at best)

These kind of comments are why there's so much animosity when DD is brought up.

[OldSkoolCool]

These kind of comments are why there's so much animosity when DD is brought up.

DD sucks

Deal with it

[JWash]

DD sucks

Deal with it

Lol