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  • Scraptor
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    Jclaw wrote: View Post
    Everyone is trying to say the right thing about the coaching change but I can’t count how many times he talks about basketball being “fun” now. I think he was a good soldier playing his role under Casey...and it worked. But this could be a fun season.
    The guy's confidence was completely shot at one point under Casey. I bet this feels like paradise.

    It's a testament to his team-first mentality that you never heard him complain about his narrowly-defined role.

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  • Jclaw
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    Everyone is trying to say the right thing about the coaching change but I can’t count how many times he talks about basketball being “fun” now. I think he was a good soldier playing his role under Casey...and it worked. But this could be a fun season.

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  • inthepaint
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Jv is gonna beast this year. 18 pts a game.
    You got 'er. Siakam too man, grabbed 13 boards in 20 minutes tonight. Everyone focused on our improvement in the perimeter & defence this year, but I think our bigs are flying under the radar and gonna beast this year too. Even Serge & Monroe had a pep in their steps tonight.

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  • consmap
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    I don't think JV posted up at all this game and he still had the most points on the team.

    And as usual, the team looked really good while he was out there. Unleash the beast!

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  • KeonClark
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    Jv is gonna beast this year. 18 pts a game.

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  • Zainab
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    Say worddddd



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  • white men can't jump
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    LJ2 wrote: View Post
    Everything you said makes sense. The new offence which spreads usage a bit more evenly among all of the starters resulted in JV getting more touches. The nature of the offence being movement based helped make it so that the touches JV got were off movement and not in the post (how he traditionally received them). Basically the new offence dictated it, but I wouldn't say it was them actively trying to focus on JV's usage.

    JV's minutes is the big question. Will Nurse try to keep him on the floor more? You have to think Nurse will try to get Siakam in the mix at centre early on, in the season. There's also Serge. Actually another big questions will be whether JV closes them game on a consistent basis...and not just if we're blowing teams out.
    I can't bold anything on Tapatalk, but the last sentence of your first paragraph basically how any good offence should be run and speaks to the problems under Casey and with Demar. You don't actively try to emphasize any one player's usage. You create a system where the way players and the ball move will put guys in a position to get good opportunities without having to overemphasize one guy. The best scorers will still rise to the top in that kind of system.

    You will still need guys like Kawhi, Lowry, and to a lesser extent our other perimeter guys, to create when things stall. That could possibly include a post up now and then for JV. However the goal is to avoid those situations as much as possible. Until last year, our offence was run with seemingly the opposite philosophy.

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  • LJ2
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Last year in his first year in Nurse's offence, JV's usage leapt from 19.5% the year before to 22.7% last year, well above his previous career high of 20.9% (the only other year he's broken 20). As a result, his per-36 minute scoring hit 20.4 points for the first time in his career, well above his previous career high of 17.8 points per 36.

    Not only was his usage higher, his efficiency jumped too - he was getting the ball in better positions to score than ever before. Unlike Casey, who would force-feed him his offence in the post (to the tune of 3 possessions a game - only 2 per game this past year), Nurse uses JV primarily as a roll threat (which has been his strength literally since he was drafted) with him finishing 3 possessions per game there this season (compared to only 2 per game the previous two years, in more minutes at that). This meant JV getting more involved in the offence in the right way - and resulted in him posting a career high usage and TS% in the same season, a rarity.

    The test for Nurse will be whether he gives JV the minutes Casey was always hesitant to give him (for good reasons or not). That's the one biggest area for potential growth. Can he exist in a high minutes role in a good defence, and maintain his elite efficiency and offensive role? Can Nurse make room for that growth, and develop a defensive system that not only maximizes defence, but maximizes the time the team's top players can stay on the floor?
    Everything you said makes sense. The new offence which spreads usage a bit more evenly among all of the starters resulted in JV getting more touches. The nature of the offence being movement based helped make it so that the touches JV got were off movement and not in the post (how he traditionally received them). Basically the new offence dictated it, but I wouldn't say it was them actively trying to focus on JV's usage.

    JV's minutes is the big question. Will Nurse try to keep him on the floor more? You have to think Nurse will try to get Siakam in the mix at centre early on, in the season. There's also Serge. Actually another big questions will be whether JV closes them game on a consistent basis...and not just if we're blowing teams out.

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  • Jclaw
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Last year in his first year in Nurse's offence, JV's usage leapt from 19.5% the year before to 22.7% last year, well above his previous career high of 20.9%...... only 2 per game this past year), Nurse uses JV primarily as a roll threat (which has been his strength literally since he was drafted) with him finishing 3 possessions per game there this season (compared to only 2 per game the previous two years, in more minutes at that). This meant ......Can Nurse make room for that growth, and develop a defensive system that not only maximizes defence, but maximizes the time the team's top players can stay on the floor?
    This can not be underemphasized. In all the post JV draft viewing of Lithuanian team footage, it was amazing to see that and get excited to see that for the Raptors. But....it kind of never happened. Hopefully that area continues to grow.

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  • DanH
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    LJ2 wrote: View Post
    What sort of growth are you referring to or hoping for? It's not like he wasn't a key member of a really good team for the last 5+ years.

    The fact remains this is a very guard/wing dominant team and even more so now than when DeMar and Casey were here. Maybe Nurse makes more of an effort to distribute usage among the players, but I'm not banking on that until I see it and it looks like it's working.
    Last year in his first year in Nurse's offence, JV's usage leapt from 19.5% the year before to 22.7% last year, well above his previous career high of 20.9% (the only other year he's broken 20). As a result, his per-36 minute scoring hit 20.4 points for the first time in his career, well above his previous career high of 17.8 points per 36.

    Not only was his usage higher, his efficiency jumped too - he was getting the ball in better positions to score than ever before. Unlike Casey, who would force-feed him his offence in the post (to the tune of 3 possessions a game - only 2 per game this past year), Nurse uses JV primarily as a roll threat (which has been his strength literally since he was drafted) with him finishing 3 possessions per game there this season (compared to only 2 per game the previous two years, in more minutes at that). This meant JV getting more involved in the offence in the right way - and resulted in him posting a career high usage and TS% in the same season, a rarity.

    The test for Nurse will be whether he gives JV the minutes Casey was always hesitant to give him (for good reasons or not). That's the one biggest area for potential growth. Can he exist in a high minutes role in a good defence, and maintain his elite efficiency and offensive role? Can Nurse make room for that growth, and develop a defensive system that not only maximizes defence, but maximizes the time the team's top players can stay on the floor?

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  • LJ2
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    G__Deane wrote: View Post
    One thing we should agree on is JV will be given a better opportunity for growth under Nurse than his misuse under Casey., I bet he's lovin' it ....
    What sort of growth are you referring to or hoping for? It's not like he wasn't a key member of a really good team for the last 5+ years.

    The fact remains this is a very guard/wing dominant team and even more so now than when DeMar and Casey were here. Maybe Nurse makes more of an effort to distribute usage among the players, but I'm not banking on that until I see it and it looks like it's working.

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  • G__Deane
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    One thing we should agree on is JV will be given a better opportunity for growth under Nurse than his misuse under Casey., I bet he's lovin' it ....

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  • KHD
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    Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
    Sorry, what?

    Why have you included Capela in there? He's even more efficient than JV at similar usage while playing more minutes. Way better on the defensive end, and arguably a better rebounder (had a better REB% last season). Not to mention being a lot more mobile. He's a much better and more dangerous option against GS than Valanciunas is and a lot less of a liability.
    in their playoff series golden state took away capela's only method of being utilized on offence (lob pass/pnr). he had a 14% usage rate in the series.

    Capela last season was assisted on 82% of his field goals, and over 80% of his shot attempts were within 3 feet. For comparison valanciunas got assisted on 64% of his FGs and took 44% of his shots from within 3 feet, 33% between 3-10 feet.

    For more detail you can look at their shot type stats on NBA.com.

    Defence obviously goes in capela's favour, but you are making a point about offensive efficiency when comparing a player who can't create his own shot to a player who can, it's not telling the whole story.

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  • Shaolin Fantastic
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    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    The thing about the mobile guys is that they don't give a significant advantage against small units. Capela was not a big factor against GSW. And guys like Drummond or Whiteside are not really better in space. They are mobile for bigs but still slow compared to perimeter players. Poeltl is quick footed and a good defender, and we've seen him fall on his ass getting crossed over by Dwight Howard. Davis is probably the best all around defender. Even Gobert is bad in space and he stays in the paint as much as possible.

    Basically I think you end up not getting an advantage with those kinds of mobile guys if they can't also play big and show more skills than just finishing at the rim on offence. If you want to match small, you need the versatile small guys. That's why the development of Siakam and OG is a big point of interest.

    If you want to beat GSW, you need the be able to either punish them with size (though now they have Cousins) or match up small, or both. Bigs who give you something in between end up failing to tip the scales in your favour in either direction. If you have a big who can play big on both ends and shoot the ball, and enough small ball depth to match up that way if your want/need to, you give yourself a chance.

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    Sorry, what?

    Why have you included Capela in there? He's even more efficient than JV at similar usage while playing more minutes. Way better on the defensive end, and arguably a better rebounder (had a better REB% last season). Not to mention being a lot more mobile. He's a much better and more dangerous option against GS than Valanciunas is and a lot less of a liability.

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