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  • LJ2
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Reading way too much into it. Raptors are worried about winning not showcasing.

    The team has evolved before our very eyes. JV is the teams #2 scorer. Lowry and Ibaka are the support guys
    It's been great seeing them integrate JV into the offence so seamlessly. He really balances out the offence and has done a hell of a job playing D. Need some tougher opponents to see if this is going to be successful in the playoffs though. Actually we need the playoffs to see how successful the new look offence will be.

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  • KHD
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    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    It feels especially bad the last few games. Just awful decision making in general.

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    used to be you could live with the dumb pullup 3s when he was driving and scoring. but he has (IMO) regressed at his driving game and also, to be fair, isn't getting as many opportunities to do it. So now it feels like every 2nd shot he takes is a contested pullup jumpshit from 3. Very irritating.

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  • white men can't jump
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    KHD wrote: View Post
    I'd prefer JV as the clear 2nd option when they're on the floor together, though. Lowry's offensive game, shot selection in particular, is not impressing me much this year.
    It feels especially bad the last few games. Just awful decision making in general.

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  • KHD
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    I'd say it works out like this: Lowry and JV are co-2nd options when both play, but Lowry plays a lot more minutes, so he gets more shots overall. Their nearly identical usage rates and per-minute FGAs back that up.
    I'd prefer JV as the clear 2nd option when they're on the floor together, though. Lowry's offensive game, shot selection in particular, is not impressing me much this year.

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  • KeonClark
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    I'd say it works out like this: Lowry and JV are co-2nd options when both play, but Lowry plays a lot more minutes, so he gets more shots overall. Their nearly identical usage rates and per-minute FGAs back that up.
    Yep and it's noticeable. It's such a calming feeling too watch Lowry go from "we need him to be superman" to "part of the core" and the team actually IMPROVED. Life after Lowry isn't looking scary anymore

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  • DanH
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Lowry may take more shots, But valanciunas is a better scorer.
    I'd say it works out like this: Lowry and JV are co-2nd options when both play, but Lowry plays a lot more minutes, so he gets more shots overall. Their nearly identical usage rates and per-minute FGAs back that up.

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  • KeonClark
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Not sure if Jonas has surpassed Lowry in the pecking order, but I'd say he's a legit #3 now.

    EDIT: I don't think 'showcasing' is something top teams do. To showcase, means to artificially increase a player's trade value. To do so, means giving a player extra opportunities that he would otherwise not receive under normal circumstances, knowing that it may hurt the team in the process. This does not sound like anything the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets (or Raptors) would do.
    Lowry may take more shots, But valanciunas is a better scorer.

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  • Nilanka
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Reading way too much into it. Raptors are worried about winning not showcasing.

    The team has evolved before our very eyes. JV is the teams #2 scorer. Lowry and Ibaka are the support guys
    Not sure if Jonas has surpassed Lowry in the pecking order, but I'd say he's a legit #3 now.

    EDIT: I don't think 'showcasing' is something top teams do. To showcase, means to artificially increase a player's trade value. To do so, means giving a player extra opportunities that he would otherwise not receive under normal circumstances, knowing that it may hurt the team in the process. This does not sound like anything the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets (or Raptors) would do.
    Last edited by Nilanka; Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:11 PM.

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  • KeonClark
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    LJ2 wrote: View Post
    I'm interested to see if they continue to involve JV in the offence, post trade deadline. His sudden surge coincided with the trade deadline approaching so wasn't sure if this was happening organically or if it was forced, as in they wanted to show case him to raise his trade value. I think the Rap's were playing around .500 basketball during a stretch of 12 games or so in January which was around the time JV really started to pick up his game. Possibly another sign they changed their offence to help show case him.

    What we need now are some tougher teams to test the offence with JV playing a big role in it.
    Reading way too much into it. Raptors are worried about winning not showcasing.

    The team has evolved before our very eyes. JV is the teams #2 scorer. Lowry and Ibaka are the support guys

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  • LJ2
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    Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
    JV having a #ProveEm season especially the last month or so. Dude's been killing it. Steph Curry the 2nd best shooter in the NBA now.
    I'm interested to see if they continue to involve JV in the offence, post trade deadline. His sudden surge coincided with the trade deadline approaching so wasn't sure if this was happening organically or if it was forced, as in they wanted to show case him to raise his trade value. I think the Rap's were playing around .500 basketball during a stretch of 12 games or so in January which was around the time JV really started to pick up his game. Possibly another sign they changed their offence to help show case him.

    What we need now are some tougher teams to test the offence with JV playing a big role in it.

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  • LJ2
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    G__Deane wrote: View Post
    Again, when you're shooting 20%, you shouldn't be trying to get open too often for poor percentage shots
    They aren't going to run any plays for JV or Pascal to take a 3pt shot, but the threat of them being able to hit one is important to the offence. That threat doesn't exist if they aren't taking them.

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  • Shaolin Fantastic
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    JV having a #ProveEm season especially the last month or so. Dude's been killing it. Steph Curry the 2nd best shooter in the NBA now.

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  • G__Deane
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    What I appreciate is that both guys are still taking, good, open shots. Nobody's forcing their game, say, the way Powell was earlier this year.
    Again, when you're shooting 20%, you shouldn't be trying to get open too often for poor percentage shots

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  • Nilanka
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Pascal still worse. 20% over last 26, 9/45
    What I appreciate is that both guys are still taking, good, open shots. Nobody's forcing their game, say, the way Powell was earlier this year.

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  • KeonClark
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Could argue that OG's the one who shouldn't be taking 3s any longer. Shooting just 20.8% over the past 26 games.
    Pascal still worse. 20% over last 26, 9/45

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