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  • pnr defense is still pretty weak.

    I'm back. I no longer worship joe johnson

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    • yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
      pnr defense is still pretty weak.


      That is not pick and roll. 34 used the screen to get the ball - screen came before the catch.

      That is poor team defense - not pick and roll.

      Pretty clear JV stayed home and protected the rim. If he goes high with his man, it is a backdoor cut for a lob and 2 points.

      33 and the guy at the top of the key are watching and late to rotate to bang the cutters.

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      • mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
        That is not pick and roll. 34 used the screen to get the ball - screen came before the catch.

        That is poor team defense - not pick and roll.

        Pretty clear JV stayed home and protected the rim. If he goes high with his man, it is a backdoor cut for a lob and 2 points.

        33 and the guy at the top of the key are watching and late to rotate to bang the cutters.
        he dropped down too low. he could have stayed a little closer to the middle of the lane because he could easily contest 34 layup with his length alone

        with him going basically baseline to trap 34. his man was wide open for the easy 2. its bad basketball iq man.

        All he needed to do was contest 34s drive with a little step until his teamate recoverd. not got full trap on 34

        poor team defense starts with minor fuckups by the players involved. not saying its all his fault but he was in the wrong here
        Last edited by yabadabayolo; Wed Aug 12, 2015, 04:03 PM.
        I'm back. I no longer worship joe johnson

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        • MACK11 wrote: View Post
          JV dunks

          Comparing this to his rookie season, it's obvious that he has more trouble getting up for dunks. Hopefully he gets his mobility back for next year.
          OG is our king

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          • consmap wrote: View Post
            Comparing this to his rookie season, it's obvious that he has more trouble getting up for dunks. Hopefully he gets his mobility back for next year.
            Looked fine to me. Way more power-dunks than as a rook.

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            • yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
              pnr defense is still pretty weak.

              If he is number 17, it almost looks to me like some of the team should have rotated. Namely number 33 should have come over quicker seeing how JV stepped out to guard ball.

              But whatevs.

              It is a single play. Not many people hit every single play every single game.

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              • mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
                That is not pick and roll. 34 used the screen to get the ball - screen came before the catch.

                That is poor team defense - not pick and roll.

                Pretty clear JV stayed home and protected the rim. If he goes high with his man, it is a backdoor cut for a lob and 2 points.

                33 and the guy at the top of the key are watching and late to rotate to bang the cutters.
                no it's obviously all JV's fault

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                • yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
                  he dropped down too low. he could have stayed a little closer to the middle of the lane because he could easily contest 34 layup with his length alone

                  with him going basically baseline to trap 34. his man was wide open for the easy 2. its bad basketball iq man.

                  All he needed to do was contest 34s drive with a little step until his teamate recoverd. not got full trap on 34

                  poor team defense starts with minor fuckups by the players involved. not saying its all his fault but he was in the wrong here
                  Again, it is out of context as it is a single play...was it first play of game? was JV on court for previous 10 minutes? did he have 4 fouls?

                  But even at that, i think he defended that well, and 33 should have come over faster.

                  JV had to give the guard room cause had he stepped out he would have gotten blown by, imo

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                  • yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
                    he dropped down too low. he could have stayed a little closer to the middle of the lane because he could easily contest 34 layup with his length alone

                    with him going basically baseline to trap 34. his man was wide open for the easy 2. its bad basketball iq man.

                    All he needed to do was contest 34s drive with a little step until his teamate recoverd. not got full trap on 34

                    poor team defense starts with minor fuckups by the players involved. not saying its all his fault but he was in the wrong here
                    are we watching the same play? because 34's man is totally behind him. A "little step" does nothing because 34 would drive past it.

                    But maybe i'm biased from years of being hung out to dry by perimeter players.

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                    • yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
                      he dropped down too low. he could have stayed a little closer to the middle of the lane because he could easily contest 34 layup with his length alone

                      with him going basically baseline to trap 34. his man was wide open for the easy 2. its bad basketball iq man.

                      All he needed to do was contest 34s drive with a little step until his teamate recoverd. not got full trap on 34

                      poor team defense starts with minor fuckups by the players involved. not saying its all his fault but he was in the wrong here
                      No way. JV played that pretty much the way he should have. 33 needed to rotate on the guy cutting through the top of the key, and whoever was on the weakside should have taken 33's man.

                      If 33 rotated onto the cutter then they funneled the ball handler into a situation with no easy outlet save for backing up and resetting.

                      Initial defense was perfectly fine, rotations afterwards were not.

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                      • yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
                        he dropped down too low. he could have stayed a little closer to the middle of the lane because he could easily contest 34 layup with his length alone

                        with him going basically baseline to trap 34. his man was wide open for the easy 2. its bad basketball iq man.

                        All he needed to do was contest 34s drive with a little step until his teamate recoverd. not got full trap on 34

                        poor team defense starts with minor fuckups by the players involved. not saying its all his fault but he was in the wrong here
                        If he goes high with his man, who has the rim?

                        You're thinking about the game from a high school perspective. These are men playing at senior national level.

                        At this level they are good enough that if you give them a couple of inches they will pay.


                        The issue here is rotations after an off ball screen.

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                        • KHD wrote: View Post
                          are we watching the same play? because 34's man is totally behind him. A "little step" does nothing because 34 would drive past it.

                          But maybe i'm biased from years of being hung out to dry by perimeter players.
                          lol - seriously.

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                          • KHD wrote: View Post
                            are we watching the same play? because 34's man is totally behind him. A "little step" does nothing because 34 would drive past it.

                            But maybe i'm biased from years of being hung out to dry by perimeter players.
                            Its always the big mans fault - perimeter players can do no wrong

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                            • Bandit wrote: View Post
                              Its always the big mans fault - perimeter players can do no wrong
                              Bandit is Dwane?

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                              • Jesus Christ... who cares? It's just some random friendly game. Jonas played his first bball game after the playoffs with a bunch of role players that are trying to crack the final team Lithuania roster against a team that hasn't been in Eurobasket for the last 30 or 40 years. You're all overanalysing the hell out of that pic.
                                MeDar ReDozan

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