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We're at 35 games so I think the real plus/minus data is starting to solidify... and our boy JV is at 10th among all 61 centres in the NBA!
This is a serious improvement staked largely on his jump to 22nd in defensive RPM. Kudos to JV. He may not be perfect at everything, but what he does do, he does very well.
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Though we pulled out the game tonight against Miami, the first half was another painful reminder about how much JV is missed. I am ready to admit that Nurse has been using him wisely for the most part. With the current NBA style of play he might never become a 30 minute a night player. But I have the impression that JV is the consummate teammate, extremely valuable in certain situations and in some games able to dominate. His defence has improved, especially rim protection. As his trade value is probably limited I suspect he will stay a Raptor for a long time and that pleases me.
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golden wrote: View PostThe toughness JV provides is a vastly overlooked skill. Impossible to quantify by stats, but painfully obvious to see with the eye test.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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A few years ago Dwane Casey said, in reference to JV: "the days of the center has gone by." That wasn't just Casey's opinion, in fact it still is the prevailing notion in the NBA these days.
But a funny thing has happened this year. If you look at impact stats, i.e. PIPM, you notice that 7 of the top 20 impact players in the NBA this season are centers. Even more interesting is that all of those guys have good to great defensive impact stats.
Earlier in the season, Serge Ibaka was hailed for transitioning to the prototypical mobile, stretch 5, rim protecting unicorn center for the modern NBA, but it's become painfully obvious that we need JV's size, toughness and finishing ability to compete at a high level. In Nurse's 'jazz solo' offense, JV is one of the few guys who can consistently create his own efficient shot and he cleans up misses which would be even more important with FVV & Wright conducting the offense way out of rhythm.
Chr1s1anL: where you @?
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golden wrote: View PostA few years ago Dwane Casey said, in reference to JV: "the days of the center has gone by." That wasn't just Casey's opinion, in fact it still is the prevailing notion in the NBA these days.
But a funny thing has happened this year. If you look at impact stats, i.e. PIPM, you notice that 7 of the top 20 impact players in the NBA this season are centers. Even more interesting is that all of those guys have good to great defensive impact stats.
Earlier in the season, Serge Ibaka was hailed for transitioning to the prototypical mobile, stretch 5, rim protecting unicorn center for the modern NBA, but it's become painfully obvious that we need JV's size, toughness and finishing ability to compete at a high level. In Nurse's 'jazz solo' offense, JV is one of the few guys who can consistently create his own efficient shot and he cleans up misses which would be even more important with FVV & Wright conducting the offense way out of rhythm.
Chr1s1anL: where you @?
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golden wrote: View PostA few years ago Dwane Casey said, in reference to JV: "the days of the center has gone by." That wasn't just Casey's opinion, in fact it still is the prevailing notion in the NBA these days.
But a funny thing has happened this year. If you look at impact stats, i.e. PIPM, you notice that 7 of the top 20 impact players in the NBA this season are centers. Even more interesting is that all of those guys have good to great defensive impact stats.
Earlier in the season, Serge Ibaka was hailed for transitioning to the prototypical mobile, stretch 5, rim protecting unicorn center for the modern NBA, but it's become painfully obvious that we need JV's size, toughness and finishing ability to compete at a high level. In Nurse's 'jazz solo' offense, JV is one of the few guys who can consistently create his own efficient shot and he cleans up misses which would be even more important with FVV & Wright conducting the offense way out of rhythm.
Chr1s1anL: where you @?OG is our king
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BadDinosaur wrote: View PostAny news on how far along JV's healing is? Any timetable for his return to action? Practice at least? Anybody?
If we go by 4 weeks, that would be Jan 30th. We play the Mavs on the 27th at home, and the Bucks on the 30th at home. So if 4 weeks, than possibly one of those games.
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planetmars wrote: View PostOn Jan 2nd, there was a report that he was still 3-4 weeks away. So if we assume 3 weeks, he'll be back around Jan 23rd. We play Indiana on the road that day (second game of B2B though). Perhaps the 25th against the Rockets on the road.
If we go by 4 weeks, that would be Jan 30th. We play the Mavs on the 27th at home, and the Bucks on the 30th at home. So if 4 weeks, than possibly one of those games.
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There were reports that JV is now getting up shots wearing only a wrap on his thumb, and off the court has no wrap at all on it. So it's a strengthening exercise at this point.
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