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Vucevic averaged 31 mpg in his third year.
I know JV is barely playing 24 mpg right now, but lets give it a month or two more to see if that number comes up. I'm not sure that it's time to panic yet.
I know developing our future is important, but you do place slightly more emphasis on quality players in our situation than if we're in full tank mode like ORL was. We do need to attract FAs, we do need our players to enjoy being here, and we need to start building a winning culture slowly.
So, given all this, I'd be perfectly happy with JV averaging 2-3 minutes less than Vuc's third year and coming in around 29-30 mpg at the end of the season. Seems like a perfectly fine balance to me.Last edited by stooley; Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:59 PM."Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostThis team isn't a contender, and will only get better if the key young players (JV and Ross) are able to make great strides towards realizing their potential. All this talk about forgoing player development for the sake of wining reeks of BC's "accelerated rebuild" talk. This team was [arguably] one James Dolan decision away from tanking last season, and now I fear the development of 2 critical players is being stunted, when it should be a priority for next season and beyond, which is when this team could truly become a contender.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostSo we should tank in order to develop JV and Ross?
I'm just saying that it shouldn't be such a black&white decision, especially when winning this year (ie: Championship) really isn't realistic, but could become more realistic in the next few years if/when the young guys are more refined. Play them a bit more, use them a bit more, but always within the game-plan and always with an eye towards winning as well. I happen to think that less Lowry/DeRozan ISO-ball and more involvement of JV/Ross/Amir would actually help the team win more, as opposed to lose more. For me, developing the young players wouldn't hurt this year and would help in the long-run, so it's not really a double-edged sword at all.
And for the record, I'm saying play/use JV/Ross slightly more. I'm not saying give Bruno/Bebe 20 MPG every game.
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lets be honest here. JV is lazy or he is out of shape or something is wrong with his knees u pick! he doesnt play alot of mins because he doesnt help on defense. its Barg all over again except JV rebounds. JV shuld be a beast right now with professional trainers to help u lift weights there is no excuse. he is lazy injuried or we have extremely bad trainers. JV cant run, cant take 1 step over to help D, and cant dominate the post after 3 years, thats crazy
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grindhouse wrote: View Postlets be honest here. JV is lazy or he is out of shape or something is wrong with his knees u pick! he doesnt play alot of mins because he doesnt help on defense. its Barg all over again except JV rebounds. JV shuld be a beast right now with professional trainers to help u lift weights there is no excuse. he is lazy injuried or we have extremely bad trainers. JV cant run, cant take 1 step over to help D, and cant dominate the post after 3 years, thats crazy
As for offense, DC has said for the past 2 seasons that he doesn't call plays for Valanciunas (other than 1 early look most games). Even this season, most of his usage and points come off broken plays and rebounds; it's not like the offensive system is designed to consistently utilize his interior game, so how could you possible expect him to be great, let alone dominant?
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grindhouse wrote: View Postlets be honest here. JV is lazy or he is out of shape or something is wrong with his knees u pick! he doesnt play alot of mins because he doesnt help on defense. its Barg all over again except JV rebounds. JV shuld be a beast right now with professional trainers to help u lift weights there is no excuse. he is lazy injuried or we have extremely bad trainers. JV cant run, cant take 1 step over to help D, and cant dominate the post after 3 years, thats crazy
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI think we've been watching different games, because from what I've seen JV's D has been about the best on the team, especially since our perimeter defenders can't keep any players from getting by them.
As for offense, DC has said for the past 2 seasons that he doesn't call plays for Valanciunas (other than 1 early look most games). Even this season, most of his usage and points come off broken plays and rebounds; it's not like the offensive system is designed to consistently utilize his interior game, so how could you possible expect him to be great, let alone dominant?
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI think we've been watching different games, because from what I've seen JV's D has been about the best on the team, especially since our perimeter defenders can't keep any players from getting by them.
As for offense, DC has said for the past 2 seasons that he doesn't call plays for Valanciunas (other than 1 early look most games). Even this season, most of his usage and points come off broken plays and rebounds; it's not like the offensive system is designed to consistently utilize his interior game, so how could you possible expect him to be great, let alone dominant?
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So what are you saying... because of JV, Utah scored additional 20 points in 18 minutes of Jonas play time n the first half?
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JV's been very steady on D this year. And you're reading into one quarter of one game where clearly the level of preparation was terrible at a team level.Last edited by white men can't jump; Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:29 PM.
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Jonas' defense does kinda suck. Hopefully it gets better. He's trying hard and is almost there, just gets a little carried away sometimes. Gotta slow the game down, read what plays the offense is running. It'll come with time. There's a reason why Cs are supposedly slow to develop"Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
Hope you're wrong.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostJV's been very steady on D this year. And you're reading into one quarter of one game where clearly the level of preparation was terrible at a team level."Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
Hope you're wrong.
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