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white men can't jump wrote: View PostDon't know until you try, but it's hard to compare the situation to Bosh's time here. Pretty different players playing different positions, to start with. Also, Bosh's teams were mostly poorly built around him as the centrepiece. There's no telling if that's how they'd choose to build if they got Jonas more involved. I don't think they'd make him the centrepiece in the sense of having disproportionately high usage.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostSame with this team though. It's not built around JV and to do,so would mean huge roster changes. But more importantly it would slow down the pace of the game too much I think. Like nobody builds around a traditional centre anymore because pace and number of possessions are so important in the game these days.
He keeps talking about playing faster but it flies in the face of everything he is, supposedly, about.....or he was once about.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostSame with this team though. It's not built around JV and to do,so would mean huge roster changes. But more importantly it would slow down the pace of the game too much I think. Like nobody builds around a traditional centre anymore because pace and number of possessions are so important in the game these days.
I think the demise of the NBA big man is a bit overstated."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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S.R. wrote: View PostI think teams don't build around a traditional center when they can't get one. Instead of trotting out a 7 foot stiff at C and a 6'10" stiff at PF they've realized they're better off with a mobile paint defender and 4 shooters. Anyone who manages to get their hands on an Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins, Marc Gasol, etc. is damn happy to make use of him. Look at how many teams have been chasing Dwight the past few years.
I think the demise of the NBA big man is a bit overstated.
Vucevic
Nurkic
JV
Drummond
Gobert
Kanter
Whiteside
Monroe
Favors
Davis
Cousins
And I've probably still missed some more
Also this year's draft is very PF and C heavy"Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed
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S.R. wrote: View PostI think teams don't build around a traditional center when they can't get one. Instead of trotting out a 7 foot stiff at C and a 6'10" stiff at PF they've realized they're better off with a mobile paint defender and 4 shooters. Anyone who manages to get their hands on an Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins, Marc Gasol, etc. is damn happy to make use of him. Look at how many teams have been chasing Dwight the past few years.
I think the demise of the NBA big man is a bit overstated.
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S.R. wrote: View PostI think teams don't build around a traditional center when they can't get one. Instead of trotting out a 7 foot stiff at C and a 6'10" stiff at PF they've realized they're better off with a mobile paint defender and 4 shooters. Anyone who manages to get their hands on an Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins, Marc Gasol, etc. is damn happy to make use of him. Look at how many teams have been chasing Dwight the past few years.
I think the demise of the NBA big man is a bit overstated.
It's all about maximizing the talent on the roster, and exploiting the mismatches and opportunities, but adapting is one of DC's fundamental flaws.
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TRex wrote: View Post30/15 huh. That's Shaq like numbers. And how many players this season are averaging 20/10? Cousins? who else?
So according to most of you here, JV has the potential to be an ELITE center, a FRANCHISE center. I think you all need to calm down lol. He had a great game last night, relax and enjoy it. Stop overreacting.
I'll be happy if he can average 15/10 lol. And McRealistic pretty much pointed out everything that i want to see from JV the rest of the way/following years.
1) Ability to pass from the double team
2) Bring down the number of turnovers
3) Be a TRUE defensive anchor and force inside in the defensive game
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POST UP GAME NEEDS TO BE BETTER."Stay steamy"
- Kobe
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TRex wrote: View PostSo...............does that mean he's a great post up player? what do you think?
He has shown the ability to be a good (not spectacular) passer out of the post if double teamed, he just needs to get used to that kind of thing happening. It wouldn't hurt the team too much to give him the ball more.
Whether he's an All Star or not doesn't matter to me right now. He needs to be more involved in the offense.OG is our king
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S.R. wrote: View PostI think teams don't build around a traditional center when they can't get one. Instead of trotting out a 7 foot stiff at C and a 6'10" stiff at PF they've realized they're better off with a mobile paint defender and 4 shooters. Anyone who manages to get their hands on an Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins, Marc Gasol, etc. is damn happy to make use of him. Look at how many teams have been chasing Dwight the past few years.
I think the demise of the NBA big man is a bit overstated.
I think it will be interesting to see what happens with some of the young bigs in/coming in to the league, as the C position is not only getting deep again, but there could be some pretty damn skilled players in the mix. Maybe the most there's been in about 15-20 years.
And in regards to pace, since that was brought up, it doesn't matter if having a true interior threat slows the game down. If you can control the pace/style of the game, that's all that matters. Number of possessions are relative to your opponent. It doesn't matter if you average a slower pace and less shots, because that also slows the game down for your opponent. Again, it's all about imposing your will on the game as a team, and not letting the other team dictate the flow.
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tDotted wrote: View PostThis is exactly what you expect from a 5th overall pick.
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