A lot of it was also the terrible guard play for Lithuania - if the guard doesn't brush his man on the screen, there's not much the big can do.
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omgsomuchpotential wrote: View PostMan if only JV got better at dishing out to open teammates from the post. Together with defense that's one of the top priorities for him in my view.
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Raptors center Jonas Valanciunas is leading the Eurobasket in scoring and rebounding. Just so you know. pic.twitter.com/IVedIjUiZl
— HoopsHype (@hoopshype) September 7, 2015
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rocwell wrote: View PostRaptors center Jonas Valanciunas is leading the Eurobasket in scoring and rebounding. Just so you know. pic.twitter.com/IVedIjUiZl
— HoopsHype (@hoopshype) September 7, 2015
He's not a perfect player, he's still young, you're going to pick out plays where he blew his coverage and missed a rotation. That's pretty normal for a young basketball player, especially a big.
What's most important now is his trajectory - is he developing in a positive direction? I do hope to see his defensive awareness, rotations, and p'n'r coverage improve this season. At the same time, the entire Raptors squad needs to improve in those area this season. They'll go a long way to making each other look better if they take a step forward on D. Jonas is not a DPOY-candidate big who will cover up a lot of his teammates' mistakes. They need to improve as an entire team."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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Superjudge wrote: View PostHe's playing against 3's and 4's.
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golden wrote: View PostYeah, I noticed that he was simply shooting over a few smaller guys, which isn't gonna happen in the NBA. But still, the bank shot, posting from the right side and using the left hand are a few things we didn't too much before from JV. Not flashy, but simple and effective. Here's hoping he's learned a few things from the Jack Sikma coaching sessions and the off-season in general.
It is overall maturation.
The game slows as you get older.
I.e. a player's processing gets faster.
JV just turned 23 - he is going to be fine.
He likely would have been farther ahead with more minutes....but maybe his extension wouldn't be what it is if that had happened.
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Lots of Gianas lovers and followers around these parts....
So far he has put up lines of
• 9 pts .. 2 boards and 1 assist vs the powerful Macadonian squad where he got 27 minutes
He followed up that turkey with a
• 6 pts....2 boards and 1 assist outing vs Croatia where he got 19 minutes.
Roll in that he has a 1 to 1 assist to turnover ratio so far and is ofer 2 games on made 3's
Pretty underwhelming compared to JV....Yet JV still getting flack for putting up 20 and 10 over 3 games against 3/4's, in games that don't translate to the NBA style.. etc.
Just sayinLast edited by Demographic Shift; Tue Sep 8, 2015, 01:35 PM.There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
- TGO
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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostLots of Gianas lovers and followers around these parts....
So far he has put up lines of
• 9 pts .. 2 boards and 1 assist vs the powerful Macadonian squad where he got 27 minutes
He followed up that turkey with a
• 6 pts....2 boards and 1 assist outing vs Croatia where he got 19 minutes.
Roll in that he has a 1 to 1 assist to turnover ratio so far.
Pretty underwhelming compared to JV....Yet JV still getting flack for putting up 20 and 10 over 3 games.
Just sayin
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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostLots of Gianas lovers and followers around these parts....
So far he has put up lines of
• 9 pts .. 2 boards and 1 assist vs the powerful Macadonian squad where he got 27 minutes
He followed up that turkey with a
• 6 pts....2 boards and 1 assist outing vs Croatia where he got 19 minutes.
Roll in that he has a 1 to 1 assist to turnover ratio so far and is ofer 2 games on made 3's
Pretty underwhelming compared to JV....Yet JV still getting flack for putting up 20 and 10 over 3 games against 3/4's, in games that don't translate to the NBA style.. etc.
Just sayin
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Just wanted to do a comparison between our own JV at the end of Season 3 in comparison to some Centers at the same point in their careers
JV - 22 yo
Al Jefferson - 22 yo
Deandre Jordan - 22 yo
Chandler - 21yo
Marc Gasol - 26 yo
Dwight - 21 yo
Here is where JV ranked
FG% - 2nd - tied with Howard at .554
FGa - 4th at 7.6(2.3 shots less than Howard)
(based on a per 36 minutes and/or per 100 possessions)
FT% - 1st
TRB - 3rd - 0.2 behind Al Jefferson for 2nd
Ast - 5th
Steals - 6th
Blocks - 6th (.2 behind Dwight for 3rd)
Turnover (tied with Gasol for 2nd)
Fouls - 3rd
Points - 3rd (0.5 ponts behind 2nd, 1.7 behind 1st)
Offensive Rating 1st( tied with Gasol)
Defensive Rating 4th (1 point ahead of Gasol and Deandre)
Winshare/48 - 1st by a mile at .155 (Gasol second at .144
DBPM - 6th .1 behind Jefferson
TS% - 2nd
TRB% - 3rd
Ass% - 5th
Does Jonas need to improve defense - Sure, the entire team does...we SUCKED last year.
But Jonas is more than holding his own against a 4 years his senior Marc Gasol offensively, and is not far off of some absolute beasts defensively in Dwight, Jordan and Chandler at the same point in their careers.
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golden wrote: View PostYeah, I noticed that he was simply shooting over a few smaller guys, which isn't gonna happen in the NBA. But still, the bank shot, posting from the right side and using the left hand are a few things we didn't too much before from JV. Not flashy, but simple and effective. Here's hoping he's learned a few things from the Jack Sikma coaching sessions and the off-season in general.
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Jonas Valančiūnas, who is averaging 19,7 pts + 10rebs in #Eurobasket2015, felt bad and left team practice. Doctors guess it's some virus.
— Donatas Urbonas (@Urbodo) September 8, 2015
'some virus'? Ebola?!?!?! I just read that there are confirmed new cases somewhere in Malaysia..
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rocwell wrote: View PostJonas Valančiūnas, who is averaging 19,7 pts + 10rebs in #Eurobasket2015, felt bad and left team practice. Doctors guess it's some virus.
— Donatas Urbonas (@Urbodo) September 8, 2015
'some virus'? Ebola?!?!?!"Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed
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