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  • TRex wrote: View Post
    He is average.

    Anyone here still thinks JV is a better player than Drummond? lol.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

    Closer than you'd think. Jonas is a much better offensive player, with a 10% higher TS%. Drummond is much better defensively. Jonas' 20.1 PER and .191 WS/48 before going down is very, very good if not elite though.
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    • Every player on our team is average.. Excluding Lowry.

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      • rocwell wrote: View Post
        Every player on our team is average.. Excluding Lowry.
        take cover roc, you're about to get it from all sides

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        • rocwell wrote: View Post
          Every player on our team is average.. Excluding Lowry.
          Lowry's below average
          OG is our king

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          • rocwell wrote: View Post
            Every player on our team is average.. Excluding Lowry.
            Crazy! ... Or Casey's a genius without peer!

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            • consmap wrote: View Post
              Lowry's below average

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              • Barolt wrote: View Post
                http://www.basketball-reference.com/...3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

                Closer than you'd think. Jonas is a much better offensive player, with a 10% higher TS%. Drummond is much better defensively. Jonas' 20.1 PER and .191 WS/48 before going down is very, very good if not elite though.
                If SVG had JV instead of Drummond , JV would be a beast and if Casey had Drummond hed be in Misissauga

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                • raptors999 wrote: View Post
                  If SVG had JV instead of Drummond , JV would be a beast and if Casey had Drummond hed be in Misissauga
                  If SVG had JV, he would be averaging 20+ points and 10+ rebounds. If Casey had Drummond, he would be averaging like 5 points and 8 rebounds.

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                  • A.I wrote: View Post
                    If SVG had JV, he would be averaging 20+ points and 10+ rebounds. If Casey had Drummond, he would be averaging like 5 points and 8 rebounds.
                    If SVG had JV he would average 19/10/1.5b

                    If casey had Drummond he would average 10/15/2.5b/1s


                    with that being said Drummond is a beast. Jonas is a above average center
                    Abbas wrote:

                    First of all i was my own source

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                    • Abbas wrote: View Post
                      If SVG had JV he would average 19/10/1.5b

                      If casey had Drummond he would average 10/15/2.5b/1s


                      with that being said Drummond is a beast. Jonas is a above average center
                      Jonas is a star.

                      Assuming more than 10 games played:

                      Only 2 centers have higher Ortg than him. Only 4 have better NetRtg than Jonas, 2 play for GSW, Tim Duncan and Steven Adams.

                      Only 3 centers have higher TS% than him.

                      He's top 10 in rebounding and Drtg. He's a plus defender inside, although he's weak defending centers with 3pt range.

                      He needs to be used better sometimes, but before going down with his injury, he was looking like an all-star.
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                      • Guys guys. Jonas is not a star.

                        We don't have stars on this team.

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                        • Barolt wrote: View Post
                          Jonas is a star.

                          Assuming more than 10 games played:

                          Only 2 centers have higher Ortg than him. Only 4 have better NetRtg than Jonas, 2 play for GSW, Tim Duncan and Steven Adams.

                          Only 3 centers have higher TS% than him.

                          He's top 10 in rebounding and Drtg. He's a plus defender inside, although he's weak defending centers with 3pt range.

                          He needs to be used better sometimes, but before going down with his injury, he was looking like an all-star.
                          I don't know about an All Star quite yet (though some NBA writers see this in the near future), but while we've weathered his absence well, I'm very disappointed that Masai told us his time to shine is coming ... only to have this set-back happen.

                          Bummer. can't wait 'til his return.

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                          • Star or not, JV is a really effective player for the Raptors and needs to be used more. Running more of the offense through him would help take some of the load off of Lowry and DD while getting good open looks for our shooters who need them badly (Carroll, 2 Pat, Ross).

                            He's too efficient for him to not to get the ball more than he has been during his past few years in the league.
                            OG is our king

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                            • consmap wrote: View Post
                              Star or not, JV is a really effective player for the Raptors and needs to be used more. Running more of the offense through him would help take some of the load off of Lowry and DD while getting good open looks for our shooters who need them badly (Carroll, 2 Pat, Ross).

                              He's too efficient for him to not to get the ball more than he has been during his past few years in the league.
                              There are only 6 players this season who've played over 200 minutes who have a PER over 20 and a TS% over .600.

                              Curry, Durant, Kawhi, Jonas, Hassan Whiteside and Enes Kanter. Jonas is playing the second lowest minutes of these guys, and taking the third lowest FGA.
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                              • rocwell wrote: View Post
                                Guys guys. Jonas is not a star.

                                We don't have stars on this team.
                                Lowry would beg to differ.

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