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[Eliza]

Would be my guess, if we're going to play Ross/PPat/JV together, my preferred group would definitely be Lowry/Ross/Carroll/Pat/JV. I like Ross better at the 2 anyways, because he can be swapped onto the better guard to let Lowry save energy for offense.

Are you seriously suggesting Ross should supplant DeMar on the starting unit. Aside from other factors, many of them, are we going to ignore the article posted in the DD thread about how DeMar creates as much space as just about any 3 pt shooter, because of his motion and fear that opponents have of his game in motion.

[Barolt]

Are you seriously suggesting Ross should supplant DeMar on the starting unit. Aside from other factors, many of them, are we going to ignore the article posted in the DD thread about how DeMar creates as much space as just about any 3 pt shooter, because of his motion and fear that opponents have of his game in motion.

I wasn't suggesting Ross supplant DeMar in the starting lineup. Where did I say that? I said if you're going to play Ross, 2Pat and JV together, that's the best lineup in my opinion for that. That's all. And the idea of DeMar's motion I broke down in that thread and pointed out that it was based on a flawed stat.(not to mention that the example they used was a lineup without any 3 point shooters, so of course the Cavs were guarding DeMar at the 3point line in that situation)

[Just Is]

Would be my guess, if we're going to play Ross/PPat/JV together, my preferred group would definitely be Lowry/Ross/Carroll/Pat/JV. I like Ross better at the 2 anyways, because he can be swapped onto the better guard to let Lowry save energy for offense.

That would be the best way to work around it.

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[special1]

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For someone who doesn't get a lot of touches JV had 6 turnovers vs the Wizards tonight.

He did have 3 assists and 4 blocks which is good.

Tough offensive game (7 pts) on 1/4 fg and tough rebounding game (3 rbs)

30 minutes played

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[Barolt]

For someone who doesn't get a lot of touches JV had 6 turnovers vs the Wizards tonight.

He did have 3 assists and 4 blocks which is good.

Tough offensive game (7 pts) on 1/4 fg and tough rebounding game (3 rbs)

30 minutes played

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It's frustrating that he plays so many of his minutes without us having the shooters to spread the floor around him. So many of his touches end with the defense collapsing on him. His elbow game was on point tonight, 2 assists from there and made some solid plays.

[JimiCliff]

For someone who doesn't get a lot of touches JV had 6 turnovers vs the Wizards tonight.

He did have 3 assists and 4 blocks which is good.

Tough offensive game (7 pts) on 1/4 fg and tough rebounding game (3 rbs)

30 minutes played

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Serious question: did you watch the game? Do you know where those turnovers came from?

[special1]

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Serious question: did you watch the game? Do you know where those turnovers came from?

From all over (I know he stepped out of bounds at least once, offensive fouls, etc.)...

6 turnovers though... How?

So some turnovers don't count when it's JV.... Got it!

I apologize if this was a legitimate question.

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[JimiCliff]

From all over (I know he stepped out of bounds at least once, offensive fouls, etc.)...

So some turnovers don't count when it's JV.... Got it!

I apologize if this was a legitimate question.

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'For someone who doesn't get a lot of touches...' implies the turnovers came off of his touches. They did not.

[MACK11]

6 turnovers for JV tonight and 3 rebs is unacceptable. He even played 30min So I dont know whats up with him this game

[special1]

'For someone who doesn't get a lot of touches...' implies the turnovers came off of his touches. They did not.

So he didn't get any turnovers from his touches? Is that what your saying?


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[JimiCliff]

So he didn't get any turnovers from his touches? Is that what your saying?


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Not 6. Not even close.

[Barolt]

Player tracking notes for tonight...

We went 10/24 on uncontested shots tonight, seems like we're missing a lot of these in a lot of games lately. Ross had 12 front court touches tonight. Val actually was at 40, third straight game over 40 frontcourt touches. Don't have data on how many of those were above the 3pt line, still feel like he gets too many out there.

Val also only had 7 rebounding chances tonight, he wasn't in position for many, by the looks of things.

DeMar had 66 touches tonight, only passed the ball on 25 of them. First time this season I've seen him below 50% of his touches being passes. He shot well enough tonight though, so he made the touches count anyways.

[Barolt]

One additional player tracking note, the Wizards only hit 17/45 uncontested shots tonight. Hard to say we defended them that well when over 60% of their FGA were uncontested.

[special1]

Not 6. Not even close.

You watched the game. So how much?

Listen... 6 turnovers is unacceptable. Stop the excuses.


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[Barolt]

I just put those last two posts in the wrong thread, sorry.