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[Apollo]

We need one. I need to talk football or I get the shakes. I need an intervention or something.

So I took the day off work. I have a bunch of flex days that I can't carry over to the New Year with my regular vac time. I'm here today lazying on the couch watching the American Thanks Giving Day game (one of three):

Green Bay Packers Vs. Detroit Lions

I love American Thanks Giving Day because it falls on a Canadian regular work day, which means my girlfriend isn't around to give him grief about lazying around watching football. Good game so far...For anyone who isn't a dirty Lions fan that is!

I know, I'm horrible but I hate the Lions, what can I say? And they never do anything to ever help themselves. Poor personnel decisions which have led to poor drafting, signing, etc.... I did read yesterday that they're talking with Mike Shanahan. That would be a smart hiring because Mike did a lot of great things in Denver. I have a lot of respect for him and it was sad to start up Madden 10 and for the first time in over a decade not being able to keep a tradition going, selecting Mike's West coast offense scheme for my team.

Back on course, Stafford has been picked three times already today...Which would be great for my Packers if they could move the chains. The Lions are really playing well on D today.

...Rogers just fumbled on 4th and 2... The words I'm thinking right now would make Richard Pryor blush. Anyway, the NFL Thread. Think, post, argue. Let's talk football.

[Apollo]

Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree because I don't see how they're taking a step forward when they lost arguably the best RB in the league and certainly the best WR in the league.

obj to lebron town

What the Browns are doing is very unlike the Browns, excellent deal for them. The Baker/Odell combo should be lethal.

The Jets are signing Le'Veon Bell. He's not getting going to hit $14M/year but he gets his $30M guaranteed money so I call this a success when considering his personal goals; how he would define success based on what he did in the last year.

[Demographic Shift]

They weren't fine last season and they don't have money to try and fix things up for this season. You're pretty optimistic, are you a Steelers fan? What am I missing?

No.. not a Steelers fan...I am from the clique of St. Jude.. the patron saint of lost causes

I am a Bills fan.

Pittsburgh always has a pretty good to very good OLine... They draft guys to fit that Oline system they run and it will be good again this year with Pouncey and Co. They will open holes for whoever runs the ball for them and give time to Rothlesberger.....
They have an above average TE
and while he isn't AB ..JuJu Schuster will step up...

Their division is tighter this year with the Browns actually looking good and Baltimore will scrap with the Steelers for a WC spot. Cincy still will still break hearts until they replace Andy Dalton.

Still waiting to see who the Bills pick up at 9.. Hoping its the Alabama Tackle or the Houston rush end.... They need help everywhere.........

[rocwell]

obj to lebron town

[Apollo]

They weren't fine last season and they don't have money to try and fix things up for this season. You're pretty optimistic, are you a Steelers fan? What am I missing?

[Demographic Shift]

The way I see it the Steelers only won nine games last year. They need him more than he needs them. Let's see how Ben does without the best WR of the last decade. Let's see how the OL does opening big holes without the top WR of the last decade out there pulling coverage out of the box.

The Raiders are only getting start this off-season. They have a lot of picks, three of them first rounders. The time isn't now to place judgement on the Raiders. In fact they may finish with more wins next year than the Steelers who are bleeding talent and can't afford to replace it. Ben isn't golden boy and we'll see soon enough what he can do with limited options.

No judgement on the Raiders... Gruden has a lot of work to do there... They were horrible last year on both sides of the ball.

The Steelers without AB will be just fine. Their OLine is a machine. It will give an aging Ben enough time to find Schuster or anyone else

[Apollo]

The dead money is a real albatros .. but its just for one more year.
The Steelers are a system team.. That offensive line can make any running back look good...
As for Antonio... well he isn't going to be getting the extra second that the Steelers line bought for him to get separation and for Ben to deliver the ball.. The Oakland line is porous at best and Carr.. well.. lets just say that there are better QB's out there.It looks good on paper... we will see come November how the Raydah's are doing.

The way I see it the Steelers only won nine games last year. They need him more than he needs them. Let's see how Ben does without the best WR of the last decade. Let's see how the OL does opening big holes without the top WR of the last decade out there pulling coverage out of the box.

The Raiders are only getting start this off-season. They have a lot of picks, three of them first rounders. The time isn't now to place judgement on the Raiders. In fact they may finish with more wins next year than the Steelers who are bleeding talent and can't afford to replace it. Ben isn't golden boy and we'll see soon enough what he can do with limited options.

[Demographic Shift]

Damn, and the Steelers have $21M in dead money against the cap this year. They're due for a step back I think.

The dead money is a real albatros .. but its just for one more year.
The Steelers are a system team.. That offensive line can make any running back look good...
As for Antonio... well he isn't going to be getting the extra second that the Steelers line bought for him to get separation and for Ben to deliver the ball.. The Oakland line is porous at best and Carr.. well.. lets just say that there are better QB's out there.It looks good on paper... we will see come November how the Raydah's are doing.

[Apollo]

Damn, and the Steelers have $21M in dead money against the cap this year. They're due for a step back I think.

[Apollo]

Wow, the Raiders really pulled off an amazing deal to get Antonio Brown. The Steelers really screwed up badly in the past year. How they handled both Bell and Brown is going to hang over them for years unless they hit home runs on the 3rd rounder and 5th rounder they received from the Raiders.

I mean this looks even worse when we consider the Raiders received a 1st round for Amari Cooper in October... I'm not sure I know what the Raiders are doing but this move was a large step in the right direction. If they now sign Le'Veon Bell then watch out because they also have three first rounders this year and two next year.

Net for the 3 major Raiders trades.

Raiders give up:

Khalil Mack
Amari Cooper
2019 3rd round
2019 5th round
2020 2nd round
2020 6th round

In exchange for:

Antonio Brown
2019 1st round
2019 1st round
2020 1st round
2020 2nd round
2020 5th round

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[Mack North]

What game were you watching?

Patriots changed their defensive scheme from all year (man coverage base to zone) specifically for this game to disrupt the Rams offence. They also knew that the Rams like to line up early so that McVay can read the defence and coach Goff on the preread snaps up to the 15 play clock cutoff time; so they called two plays each snap, one to line up in, and one to run - specifically targeted to confuse the young QB and take McVay’s tactics out of the game.

Every snap for the Rams, it looked like the Patriots knew the play cause no one was open. Patriots came ready for the Rams while McVay couldn’t adjust his offence to attack the zone. McVay got entirely out coached. Not even close.

I'm pretty sure he even admitted this afterwards.

Also, I did not hear any hype machine saying this was some great game, it was an absolutely terrible watch. Not sure where you would have heard that, SJ.

[Axel]

wtf are you on about.
The young guy heldhis own.

Game in a nutshell.... Rams d was good, Pats d was good, Brady made 1 play, Rams guy threw an interception.

The hype machine will make it seem like that was some great game, but it was what it was, a shit game, with one mistake by the rams guy costing them the game. Brady got a win, but he didnt win the game..... that was a Defence game, and a toss up at that. Rams 33 year old Coached matched Belichek completely.

[Superjudge]

Fuck Brady, that game was all about the GOATness of Belicheck. Dude completely owned McVay. Most lob sided coaching job that I’ve ever seen.

wtf are you on about.
The young guy heldhis own.

Game in a nutshell.... Rams d was good, Pats d was good, Brady made 1 play, Rams guy threw an interception.

The hype machine will make it seem like that was some great game, but it was what it was, a shit game, with one mistake by the rams guy costing them the game. Brady got a win, but he didnt win the game..... that was a Defence game, and a toss up at that. Rams 33 year old Coached matched Belichek completely.

[Axel]

[Mack North]

Super Bore. That game sucked, bigly.