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  • Demographic Shift wrote: View Post

    Charlie is in over his head.
    Nice guy... but in over his head.

    Injuries have hurt the bullpen and some SP..
    I can live with that...

    I can't live with losing games when you don't take your best shot with your best guys...
    Shades of the self procalaimed smartest man in baseball .. Buck Showalter ... keeping his best reliever on the bench or pulling your best guy out of the game when he hadn't lost it..
    2/5 of the rotation is TBD and We'll See. Their 4 best relievers are hurt. Romano's arm is falling off. Not sure what he is supposed to do.....Bullpen is regressing to the mean after a hot start and the starters can't be trusted to give them any innings. Bad combination. And, do you really think he's making these decisions? All these teams are run by the front office. Montoya is told who is available and who isn't - it's not his call.

    Good news is that they are 500 with one of the toughest (toughest?) schedules and Springer hasn't played yet, plus, some of those bullpen arms should be coming back soonish. Then you've got 19 against Baltimore and a pile against Detroit. Gonna have to use those to make hay.

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    • slaw wrote: View Post

      2/5 of the rotation is TBD and We'll See. Their 4 best relievers are hurt. Romano's arm is falling off. Not sure what he is supposed to do.....Bullpen is regressing to the mean after a hot start and the starters can't be trusted to give them any innings. Bad combination. And, do you really think he's making these decisions? All these teams are run by the front office. Montoya is told who is available and who isn't - it's not his call.

      Good news is that they are 500 with one of the toughest (toughest?) schedules and Springer hasn't played yet, plus, some of those bullpen arms should be coming back soonish. Then you've got 19 against Baltimore and a pile against Detroit. Gonna have to use those to make hay.
      All true...
      Just not sold on Charlie...
      Manoah comes up on Wedensday... Pearsons clone...He can bring the gas.
      And with the 4th overall pick the Toronto Raptors select..... Scottie Barnes.

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      • Manoah rolled a day due to rain in the Bronx.
        This kid has a solid mental makeup... Does he leapfrog Pearson and stick in the rotation before Nate ?
        Assuming Charlie won't designate him and use him out of the Bullpen after this start
        And with the 4th overall pick the Toronto Raptors select..... Scottie Barnes.

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        • Montoya is a genius again. He told Matz to go out there and strike out 10 guys and only give up 1 run, then, he told Manoah to throw 6 almost flawless innings in his MLB debut. Result: 2 straight wins.

          Guy really knows how to push the right buttons and all that stuff about managers, etc....

          Hopefully, he can get Ray to throw 6 great innings tonight. I think he should really lean into the 'just go out there and pitch with confidence' pep talk. That should work.

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          • slaw wrote: View Post
            Montoya is a genius again. He told Matz to go out there and strike out 10 guys and only give up 1 run, then, he told Manoah to throw 6 almost flawless innings in his MLB debut. Result: 2 straight wins.

            Guy really knows how to push the right buttons and all that stuff about managers, etc....

            Hopefully, he can get Ray to throw 6 great innings tonight. I think he should really lean into the 'just go out there and pitch with confidence' pep talk. That should work.
            Lol...good medium smack there.
            To me Charlie isn’t the guy...

            But wow..Manoah brings gas...and he can pull the string with offspeed stuff the gets over for strikes.
            If Pearson gets his game back in order and throws strikes ...then we have a good 1 through 5 SP rotation.
            Springer should be back before bass season opens.
            And with the 4th overall pick the Toronto Raptors select..... Scottie Barnes.

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            • Demographic Shift wrote: View Post

              Lol...good medium smack there.
              To me Charlie isn’t the guy...

              But wow..Manoah brings gas...and he can pull the string with offspeed stuff the gets over for strikes.
              If Pearson gets his game back in order and throws strikes ...then we have a good 1 through 5 SP rotation.
              Springer should be back before bass season opens.
              What the fuck is wrong with Springer? Guy has missed 50 games with a bum quad? That doesn’t sound right or good.

              Manoah looked terrific. Next team will be prepared, so we will see how he adjusts once they figure out his stuff.

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              • slaw wrote: View Post

                What the fuck is wrong with Springer? Guy has missed 50 games with a bum quad? That doesn’t sound right or good.

                Manoah looked terrific. Next team will be prepared, so we will see how he adjusts once they figure out his stuff.
                Manoah can pitch as opposed to just coming back time after time with that giddyup fastball.
                What I mean by that even Randy Johnson got measured up by major league hitters. Manoah has good control for a 21 year old of his three or four pitches.
                If he and whoever catches him can keep hitters off balance with a mix of serious gas (96 and 97) and then be able to pull the string with a change or a curve and the odd slider for strikes he will be around as long as his arm holds up.
                Next outing I am watching to see if his control holds up. I think it does.

                Springer has never played a full season. One of those guys. Its always a mystery that your big FA signing always seems to get a hammy or a quad or an oblique in their first season... Just need him back permantly by the end of June...

                Jays know what they have now... and what they need.
                An everyday 3rd baseman at the deadline.
                Pearson and Manoah to have enough tmoxie and control to start at the major league level as the 4th and 5th rotation guys.
                Some BP guys to come back off IR. (Merryweather, Boruki The Lefty)
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                A bench coach for Charlie
                And with the 4th overall pick the Toronto Raptors select..... Scottie Barnes.

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                • Wow... another Charlie moment....
                  Clock is now ticking on him...
                  And with the 4th overall pick the Toronto Raptors select..... Scottie Barnes.

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                  • Our boys at the top of the AL right now. Love to see it. Got a legit team this year.

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                    • Joey wrote: View Post
                      Our boys at the top of the AL right now. Love to see it. Got a legit team this year.
                      Am quite liking what's happening with the BJs. The white collar crew are doing a surprisingly good job too getting/making some good acquisitions. There seems to be a diamond catcher in Buffalo seeking a spot on the big team (Moreno) ... imagine him raking with the rest. A very likable team too.

                      Not a bad Saturday with the Raps & Jays eh?

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                      • Good start...
                        Bit of a slump right now.
                        No bats.
                        When the bats turn on again, and they will, all the other stuff goes away.
                        Except the bull pen.. need some more arms.
                        And with the 4th overall pick the Toronto Raptors select..... Scottie Barnes.

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                        • and the charlie era comes to an end....
                          And with the 4th overall pick the Toronto Raptors select..... Scottie Barnes.

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                          • How is no one talking about how the Jays just scored 40 runs in a Series sweep, with a 28-5 annihilation of everybodies (least) favourite, Boston Red Sox.

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                            • Joey wrote: View Post
                              How is no one talking about how the Jays just scored 40 runs in a Series sweep, with a 28-5 annihilation of everybodies (least) favourite, Boston Red Sox.
                              Good times never seemed so good. So good, so good, so good....

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                              • Post Charlie the Blue Jays are on a 8 and 1 run.
                                Same guys.
                                Something went sideways in the clubhouse or the Jays front offfice just felt it was time to move on from Charlie to a different style of manager as this is a win now club.

                                Jays need arms at the deadline.
                                They won't empty the farm system for bullpen arms so I think we see a bit of an airlift.
                                A Starting Pitcher would be gold. It will cost a Moreno or O.Martinez. Depending on who it is... I am in .. This is a realy really good team when they hit.They got a chance.
                                Last edited by Demographic Shift; Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:49 AM.
                                And with the 4th overall pick the Toronto Raptors select..... Scottie Barnes.

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