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  • Apollo wrote: View Post
    Bloomberg) -- President Donald Trump plans to declare a national emergency on Friday over the coronavirus outbreak, invoking the Stafford Act to open the door to more federal aid for states and municipalities, according to two people familiar with the matter.

    Trump is under increasing pressure to act as governors and mayors nationwide step up actions to mitigate the spread, closing schools and canceling public events. The president said he will hold a news conference at 3 p.m. in Washington.

    The move would allow the government to martial additional resources to combat the virus, and also marks a symbolic turning point for the president, who has repeatedly compared the coronavirus to the seasonal flu and insisted that his administration had the outbreak under control.
    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/tr...151931686.html

    Judging by what I've been seeing, America went ahead and started treating this like an emergency. Trump is the last to know.
    The cornavirus has done what nothing else seemed to be able to do..
    It has ended his re-election bid.

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    • Miekenstien wrote: View Post

      i do. closing the border to china, and then the eu was a good idea. his job is to protect american citizens. he has been the only western leader to actually do something. italy's leader went "don't be racist", same as us. not smart. wide open borders through europe from poor shitty countries is going to escalate this.

      actually trump closing down america is world leadership that i wish all the pigs would follow. when the pigs start dying the pigs will start getting draconian.
      Closing borders wasn't a good idea. It isn't effective. But it made racists feel better!

      Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.

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      • jimmie wrote: View Post

        Closing borders wasn't a good idea. It isn't effective. But it made racists feel better!
        yeah, those fucking europeans right. filthy disgusting whites.

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        • jimmie wrote: View Post

          Closing borders wasn't a good idea. It isn't effective. But it made racists feel better!
          Probably true at this point in time as its everywhere..

          One thing we are really going to look back on and regret though is the pretty ineffective screening thats going on at international points of entry to the country.
          We could have and now should do better at airports.

          Screening is almost totally unworkable at US border points where thousands upon thousands come in and out by car on a daily basis.
          Douane/Customs agents in those booths can't take everyones temp coming in so.. you just might entertain closing the border to non commercial traffic if say a Seattle or Buffalo or even a Plattsburgh became massive hot spots for the virus. I don't see it as racist.. its a protective measure.

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          • Border closures are not very effective. Just like school closures - not very effective. The only thing that's shown to be extremely effective is aggressive social distancing.

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            • But it’s not effective. Would be a waste of time and resources. It’s not a “well, it might work, let’s just try it” scenario. It’s just not effective. Hey
              Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.

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              • jimmie wrote: View Post
                But it’s not effective. Would be a waste of time and resources. It’s not a “well, it might work, let’s just try it” scenario. It’s just not effective. Hey
                So you think that preventing infected people from entering the country has no positive impact on stopping the virus spread? I mean, why do you think they're closing down facilities? To limit contact with the infected. Also, how is this racist?

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                • Demographic Shift wrote: View Post

                  The cornavirus has done what nothing else seemed to be able to do..
                  It has ended his re-election bid.

                  No. Still Trump 2020. Sleepy Joe in the primaries on TV speaking for any amount of time will turn people away from the indentitarian national socialists of the democratic party.

                  Here is Glen beck's idea. Another tax cut, the payroll tax. Helps the poorest the most. Poorest meaning lowest income earner, not non contributor.



                  Edit add: I think Joe's hand went up for free health care for the world at the expense of the American tax payer as well.
                  Last edited by Miekenstien; Fri Mar 13th, 2020, 04:48 PM.

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                  • rocwell wrote: View Post
                    Border closures are not very effective. Just like school closures - not very effective. The only thing that's shown to be extremely effective is aggressive social distancing.
                    Both are tactics within the overall strategy of flattening the contraction/infection curve.
                    It makes good sense to halt as many net new cases coming into your containment zone as you can.

                    Closing schools,arenas, libraries or any venues where large numbers of people congregate would slow transmission in these gathering hubs.
                    I don't have an answer for public transit ....I think you have to live with it.

                    You do what you can where you can.
                    Last edited by Demographic Shift; Fri Mar 13th, 2020, 05:01 PM.

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                    • https://ca.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...190048955.html

                      How can not allowing people from infected areas in be useless, but just not going to an infected area effective?

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                      • Miekenstien wrote: View Post


                        No. Still Trump 2020. Sleepy Joe in the primaries on TV speaking for any amount of time will turn people away from the indentitarian national socialists of the democratic party.

                        Here is Glen beck's idea. Another tax cut, the payroll tax. Helps the poorest the most. Poorest meaning lowest income earner, not non contributor.



                        Edit add: I think Joe's hand went up for free health care for the world at the expense of the American tax payer as well.
                        Meik.. I think he is toast now.
                        There were a lot of factors in play prior to this that were going to make it close.

                        Where white men didn't vote for Hillary last time out they now have a choice between Trump and another white guy. It won't take many votes in places like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan to swing those electoral college votes the other way.
                        White women in the south probably won't support Trump in the numbers they did last time around.
                        Trump has been a disintermediator of epic proportions. One of those changes is that more women than ever have stuck their nose into politics and they are most likely to line up behind Biden than Trump.

                        He looked disjointed as he fumbled around for the past 10 days with the impact the coronavirus took on the great republic. That .. to me anyway.. is the tipping point.

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                        • Just watched a piece of Trump's declaration of emergency speech. He's looks off. As in sick.

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                          • Demographic Shift wrote: View Post

                            Meik.. I think he is toast now.
                            There were a lot of factors in play prior to this that were going to make it close.

                            Where white men didn't vote for Hillary last time out they now have a choice between Trump and another white guy. It won't take many votes in places like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan to swing those electoral college votes the other way.
                            White women in the south probably won't support Trump in the numbers they did last time around.
                            Trump has been a disintermediator of epic proportions. One of those changes is that more women than ever have stuck their nose into politics and they are most likely to line up behind Biden than Trump.

                            He looked disjointed as he fumbled around for the past 10 days with the impact the coronavirus took on the great republic. That .. to me anyway.. is the tipping point.
                            I think Bernie bros stay home, or vote for Trump again, and until this virus hits jobs, he should keep his gains with blacks, and Latinos.

                            If this starts dropping employment, I will agree that he could lose. Still don't think it will happen. I believe the trumpers will come out en masse to support him.

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                            • Miekenstien wrote: View Post

                              I think Bernie bros stay home, or vote for Trump again, and until this virus hits jobs, he should keep his gains with blacks, and Latinos.

                              If this starts dropping employment, I will agree that he could lose. Still don't think it will happen. I believe the trumpers will come out en masse to support him.
                              Bernie bros are weird people, at least on twitter. They kept bulling Elizabeth for days, sending her snake emojis, etc. She dropped out, everybody started kissing her ass and asking to endorse Bernie lol

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                              • Apollo wrote: View Post

                                So you think that preventing infected people from entering the country has no positive impact on stopping the virus spread? I mean, why do you think they're closing down facilities? To limit contact with the infected. Also, how is this racist?
                                It’s not what I think. It’s what epidemiologists - you know, the experts - think. Check the WHO. They know what they’re doing. Lot of people talking out their ass, as usual. I’ve worked on national pandemic response 3 times in the past 30 years beginning with SARS. I’m not a scientist, but I worked closely with them and respect their opinion.

                                The racist bit bit was directed at our friend Miek who desperately needs to blame someone for this.
                                Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.

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