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  • Miekenstien wrote: View Post

    i just think he could easily get everyone who voted for him to change their oh so sacred and noble stance on omar if he just said that he was alt right. then the book could and would be thrown at him. you could punch him in the face, justifiably just for hearing him speak.
    I don't even really know what you're saying here, but cool. Lol

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    • Joey wrote: View Post
      I don't even really know what you're saying here, but cool. Lol
      i am saying in a hypothetical world where his position was my position, my position would be the same, but his and his followers would be different, still 100% correct, and 100% moral

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      • Miekenstien wrote: View Post

        i am saying in a hypothetical world where his position was my position, my position would be the same, but his and his followers would be different, still 100% correct, and 100% moral
        Lol This is some Rick and Morty shit. I don't think parallel universes are valid debate points.

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        • Joey wrote: View Post

          Lol This is some Rick and Morty shit. I don't think parallel universes are valid debate points.
          haha. fair enough. i use them as thought exercises.

          in one scenario i think of a genie and the world leaders.
          the genie offers to fix all of mankind's problems, and everyone lives as equals. who would say yes, and who would say no. trudeau would say yes, trump would say yes, england, france etc. the generally good places would agree to that. the ccp wouldn't, the mugabe's wouldn't, the maduro's wouldn't. any condition that didn't give them final and complete say on all things would be an unacceptable trade off. they would rule hell, rather than serve in heaven.

          another one on the evils of socialism. let's pretend we give 100% employment to just one group of people, and then redistribute their wealth and equity equally among the other people of the world. that's slavery. you have to believe you are entitled to other people's property, sweat, and livelihood to believe in socialism. it is evil.

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          • going off thread, but with regards to alternate universes, if an atom can do anything it needs to do, and does those things unless measured and forced into place, the alternate worlds theory makes sense. what if dark matter was matter from the alternate actions the atoms made creating the infinite universe.

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            • I don't quite get the passionate hate for Trudeau.. I mean he he's an idiot but he's a party leader. It's the party not the person, and he's got a minority government meaning any policy his party wants to pass can get shot down with votes. And the only reason he became the PM was because of pot. If the Conservatives were pro-pot Harper would have won in 2015. If they picked any other leader other than Scheer then he would have been PM in 2019.

              With regards to the gun debate.. I understand the need for weaponry in case the government becomes an anarchy. But at that point you can pretty much find weapons anyway.. although the citizens would probably need help from other countries like our neighbours down south. The US spend trillions a year on its military and they have some fierce weapons. Even Skynet was brought down and the humans essentially stole the robot's weapons and used them against them. I mean they had to build a god damn time machine to win their war. The semi-automatic sh!t has no place with regular joes though. Especially not in Canada. Good move by the Liberals there.

              As for the terrorist settlement.. it was a settlement. The Supreme Court got involved. Kahdr wanted $20M. Supreme court ruled we were guilty, yet the feds settled for $10.5M (almost half the amount he wanted). PM's can't write the law. They can change it but need a house majority and a bill. Talk to your MP about it and maybe they can change it. It's probably not a law that most politicians give a sh!t about though.


              I just find politics so embarrassing that it's usually not worth talking about. To spend so much time arguing over things when the leaders are complete baboons and the choice to select the new leader/party in the next election is basically like deciding between a douche bag and a turd sandwich (shout out to South Park for that reference).

              I mean the Liberal leader was dressed up in brown face for a party when he was younger, yet still got re-elected. And the US leader told everyone to basically drink bleach to help cure the covid virus. And these are the guys you are arguing for.

              The next US election will be a riot. Will come down to the wire.. and will be two senile men going at it. One is an asshole. The other a complete moron. Both will be super embarrassing.. but what will be the funniest will be reading what people say when they debate who was better and why.

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              • for me, it is the smug douchebaggery. that he is the avatar of the exact image of the white male he derides, and was lifted to prime minister on something he says he hates. i can accept assholes, but i can't stand liars. every politician lies, this guy does it in the most shit eating grin way possible.

                the audacity to bar the conservative party, that got the most votes in the country(for not being helpful), talk about minority rule.

                guy is an empty suit. i agree he is a figurehead, but they should have chosen a better guy. either believe his lies, or despise him as a liar.

                "because it's 2015" what shit.

                i can't wait to see who wins in america. if it is trump, it will go crazy. if it is whoever they change biden out for, who knows. no way they let biden debate trump in front of live television for an hour and a half. hillary is super smart, and deceitful as fuck, and he ate her lunch.

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                • Miekenstien wrote: View Post
                  for me, it is the smug douchebaggery. that he is the avatar of the exact image of the white male he derides, and was lifted to prime minister on something he says he hates. i can accept assholes, but i can't stand liars. every politician lies, this guy does it in the most shit eating grin way possible.

                  the audacity to bar the conservative party, that got the most votes in the country(for not being helpful), talk about minority rule.

                  guy is an empty suit. i agree he is a figurehead, but they should have chosen a better guy. either believe his lies, or despise him as a liar.

                  "because it's 2015" what shit.

                  i can't wait to see who wins in america. if it is trump, it will go crazy. if it is whoever they change biden out for, who knows. no way they let biden debate trump in front of live television for an hour and a half. hillary is super smart, and deceitful as fuck, and he ate her lunch.
                  Of course Trudeau's a liar. All politicians care about are votes man. They don't give a damn about "the people". Nobody does. It's been a lie for as long as we can remember. It's a complete joke. A farce. That's why its hilarious when people like you are so passionate about politics. Trudeau is as slimy as they come. He's just really bad at it. The guy is a silver spoon fed guy that acts like a millennial (even though he's not). The Liberals made him the face because he's got a famous dad and he looks the part. He's also bilingual.

                  The reason Trump won was because Obama was spearheading the 1% rule. The "people" got tired of elitists. They listened to Trump's bullshit because he like Obama and Clinton just wanted votes. Trump lies all the time.. heck they have some website counting every one of his lies like this one here: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-popular-vote-

                  I frankly think we need another civil war. It's what most people want I think. Just create a north/south or east/west (in Canada). Divide the line, create two countries.. and everyone will be happy (but they won't be). Put all the gun toting, oil loving, anti-government guys on one side; and socialist, bleeding heart, abortionists on the other.



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                  • planetmars wrote: View Post

                    Of course Trudeau's a liar. All politicians care about are votes man. They don't give a damn about "the people". Nobody does. It's been a lie for as long as we can remember. It's a complete joke. A farce. That's why its hilarious when people like you are so passionate about politics. Trudeau is as slimy as they come. He's just really bad at it. The guy is a silver spoon fed guy that acts like a millennial (even though he's not). The Liberals made him the face because he's got a famous dad and he looks the part. He's also bilingual.

                    The reason Trump won was because Obama was spearheading the 1% rule. The "people" got tired of elitists. They listened to Trump's bullshit because he like Obama and Clinton just wanted votes. Trump lies all the time.. heck they have some website counting every one of his lies like this one here: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-popular-vote-

                    I frankly think we need another civil war. It's what most people want I think. Just create a north/south or east/west (in Canada). Divide the line, create two countries.. and everyone will be happy (but they won't be). Put all the gun toting, oil loving, anti-government guys on one side; and socialist, bleeding heart, abortionists on the other.
                    i agree with almost all of this except the war bit, and why trump won. it won't break into two parts. every group will want its own place.

                    i think trump won as a direct counter balance to pc culture, and intersectionality.

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                    • planetmars wrote: View Post
                      Put all the gun toting, oil loving, anti-government guys on one side; and socialist, bleeding heart, abortionists on the other.
                      I'd say a good 75% of Canada doesn't fall into either one of those extremes. Lol

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                      • Joey wrote: View Post

                        I'd say a good 75% of Canada doesn't fall into either one of those extremes. Lol
                        Neither does the USA. Most people in both countries just want good jobs that pay them enough money to have a decent place to live, a solid car, a few nice things, and opportunities for their kids to do better than they have.

                        Sadly, the governing elite in both countries is the worst in history. Obama and Trump, I think, both captured some of the zeitgeist with "Hope and Change" and "MAGA" but Obama only played the outsider and Trump isn't competent/focused/ruthless enough to do what needs to be done. My big worry for the USA has always been what will come after Trump if he loses without having effected the economic change people wanted and this pandemic has really set things back.

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                        • this is all good stuff. most on this video were very loud in their support for mrs ford, and the destruction of justice kavanuagh. remember their brother can rape your sister, but you better stay away from anyone that they even remotely need at the moment. they are very noble people, and not communists.

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                          • 'Live and Let Die' blasts as Trump visits mask factory
                            In a tweet, Jimmy Kimmel noted: "I can think of no better metaphor for this presidency than Donald Trump not wearing a face mask to a face mask factory while the song 'Live and Let Die' blares in the background."
                            https://www.yahoo.com/live-let-die-b...013638094.html


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                            Someone was messing with Trump. lol
                            Last edited by Apollo; Wed May 6th, 2020, 05:36 PM.

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                            • As the fall out from the Russian Hoax continues to reveal not only the incompetence but the malicious intent of those who perpetrated it against the country for 3 years, today saw more excellent news with one more good man, Michael Flynn, being exonerated. All the people who called a war hero and patriot a traitor and worse should apologize. Add him to the laundry list of people whose lives were targeted for destruction by Democratic partisans intent on undoing Trump's election. Hopefully, in this case, the Mueller/DOJ lawyers who lied to the court, hid evidence from the defense, and cut an unethical deal with Flynn's defense lawyers (which they also lied to the court about) will be disbarred.

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                              • https://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada-bac...100004721.html
                                good for canada on siding with america's insistence on the inclusion of taiwan in the who

                                "We believe that Taiwan's role as a non-state observer in the World Health Assembly meetings is in the interest of the international health community and is important to the global fight against the COVID-19 pandemic.

                                "Canada encourages the WHO to engage with experts from Taiwan and to support Taiwan's meaningful inclusion in global discussions on health."

                                Canada approved a verbal demarche to two senior WHO executives during a meeting Thursday that urged them to allow Taiwan to be admitted as an observer to an upcoming meeting because its input would be "meaningful and important."

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