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  • Apollo wrote: View Post

    It's clear what you're assuming. It's implied all the way through your post and now I can see it clearly in a couple prior posts.

    The arrogance in your post in question is... Surprising. If you truly were as wise as you think you are, such a thing would never have left your fingertips.

    You're saying that people who disagree with you don't think critically. I'm not going to defend myself against such snobbery. Arrogance never wins. You'll see as you get older and more mature.
    Like i said, man, I’m done. You’re completely misinterpreting what I’ve been saying, and I can’t convince you otherwise. Again, you don’t seem to like being challenged. You came up with your opinion based on your own personal views and experiences and weren’t interested in hearing anything else. You couldn’t even position your thoughts about Brees’ ignorance without throwing subtle shade at Kaep’s motivations. Don’t you see anything in that to make you consider how you’re thinking about both of them in totally different ways?

    See ya, and good luck with the “snobbery” and “arrogance will never win” approach to differing opinions.
    Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.

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    • jimmie wrote: View Post

      Like i said, man, I’m done. You’re completely misinterpreting what I’ve been saying, and I can’t convince you otherwise. Again, you don’t seem to like being challenged. You came up with your opinion based on your own personal views and experiences and weren’t interested in hearing anything else. You couldn’t even position your thoughts about Brees’ ignorance without throwing subtle shade at Kaep’s motivations. Don’t you see anything in that to make you consider how you’re thinking about both of them in totally different ways?

      See ya, and good luck with the “snobbery” and “arrogance will never win” approach to differing opinions.
      The irony is I changed my view on something, I came in here and publically mentioned it in place three years ago I mentioned I believed in something else and debated it. Then you came in with a condescending attitude, I challenged you on that and you tuck tail and run while throwing your hands up telling me I don't like to be challenged on my views.

      How do you suppose my view on this changed? Did the Idea Fairy come one night and leave something under my pillow?

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      • slaw wrote: View Post
        I confess that while the left is eating its own at the New York Times is not surprising I didn’t see Vox being among the Girondins. Thought they were definitely Montagnards. On the positive side, no more Voxsplainers! Vive la revolution! Bend the knee liberals, your progressive masters demand it.
        There's social pressure on the left and right to narrow internal opinions to align with the loudest or most powerful voices. Look at how many Republican voices have been disowned as the Trump Train rolled along.

        There's also a weird expectation from both sides for homogeneous thought on the opposing side. How about this radical idea - a diversity of opinions and discussions, including disagreements, over politics, policies, and ideologies is a good thing.
        "We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard

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        • S.R. wrote: View Post
          There's also a weird expectation from both sides for homogeneous thought on the opposing side. How about this radical idea - a diversity of opinions and discussions, including disagreements, over politics, policies, and ideologies is a good thing.
          Some people like to blame this polarization on Trump but I think they have it wrong. This was going on before Trump came into politics. It was this environment that allowed for him to become President and that's not just commentary on those who voted for/against him but its also commentary on those who picked his opponent and the sheer fact that the system only truly supports ONE opponent. The choices were poor across the board. They both were coming from the mindset "you're either with us or you're against us". Depending on which lesser evil you picked you were either "deplorable" or you were weak, lazy and looking for a free handout.
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          • Apollo wrote: View Post

            Some people like to blame this polarization on Trump but I think they have it wrong. This was going on before Trump came into politics. It was this environment that allowed for him to become President and that's not just commentary on those who voted for/against him but its also commentary on those who picked his opponent and the sheer fact that the system only truly supports ONE opponent. The choices were poor across the board. They both were coming from the mindset "you're either with us or you're against us". Depending on which lesser evil you picked you were either "deplorable" or you were weak, lazy and looking for a free handout.
            I really think polarization/partisanship is the biggest threat to democracy. It can break the system and it's the crack that's leveraged by foreign interference (Cambridge Analytica), big business, and any other ideologues trying to get whatever one thing they can out of the system, the rest of us be damned. And it's all shifted into overdrive the past 10 years because of social media algorithms, created for clicks and ad revenue but which even under the most gracious of assumptions are unintentionally creating echo chambers and driving people further down their respective rabbit holes.
            "We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard

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            • The GOAT is not messing around:

              Last edited by planetmars; Fri Jun 5th, 2020, 06:24 PM.

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              • Michael Jordan, Jordan Brand to donate $100M to Black community causes



                Michael Jordan. (Charles Rex Arbogast/AP)


                Michael Jordan and the Jordan Brand are donating $100 million over the next 10 years to organizations dedicated to promoting racial equality, social justice and access to education, the company said in a statement Friday.

                The announcement comes amid protests over systemic racism and police brutality across the U.S. in response to the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police last week.

                Nike, the parent company of Jordan Brand, also committed on Friday to providing $40 million over the next four years to support the Black community in the U.S.

                “We must join forces with the community, government and civic leaders to create a lasting impact together,” said Craig Williams, president of Jordan Brand, in a press release.

                “There is still more work for us to do to drive real impact for the Black Community. We embrace the responsibility.”

                Jordan Brand emphasized that Black lives matter and said that it isn’t a controversial statement.

                “Until the ingrained racism that allows our country’s institutions to fail is completely eradicated, we will remain committed to protecting and improving the lives of Black people,” said the release.

                On Sunday, Jordan himself released a statement saying he stands with the protesters “who are calling out the ingrained racism and violence toward people of colour.”

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                  • Bendit wrote: View Post
                    To do this properly he needs a sackcloth and possibly should think about shaving that head, too.

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                      • Bendit wrote: View Post
                        When I saw this I got a chuckle from it and it reminds me of another pol who took more than his share of slings and arrows from the annointed.

                        Progressive urban myths which have been passed down from generation to generation surround this one man, who when the stories are told in hushed tones, singlehandidly brought the teachers unions to their knees while simultaneously gutting public education in ways that it would never recover from his actions, brought fear to the good champagne socialists in North Toronto and the Beach and was the bogeyman that my friend Joey probably heard about when his parents or grandparents told him ghost stories at bedtime.

                        Two words to this day still strike fear into Liberals from Kenora to Cornwall.
                        Mike Harris.

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                        • Bendit wrote: View Post
                          All his photo ops with cops and soldiers are pretty bizarre. Putin on horseback energy.
                          "We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard

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                          • Demographic Shift wrote: View Post

                            When I saw this I got a chuckle from it and it reminds me of another pol who took more than his share of slings and arrows from the annointed.

                            Progressive urban myths which have been passed down from generation to generation surround this one man, who when the stories are told in hushed tones, singlehandidly brought the teachers unions to their knees while simultaneously gutting public education in ways that it would never recover from his actions, brought fear to the good champagne socialists in North Toronto and the Beach and was the bogeyman that my friend Joey probably heard about when his parents or grandparents told him ghost stories at bedtime.

                            Two words to this day still strike fear into Liberals from Kenora to Cornwall.
                            Mike Harris.
                            Whot??? Demeaning Harris to Orange man's irredeemable toilet level status? The issues here as well are not comparable ... teachers pay & benefits vs. selective police brutality and racism? There are 1st amend. constitutional rights also trampled over by the Donald never mind brandishing the bible in a photo op. What was that?

                            But you saw humour ... so good.

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                            • slaw wrote: View Post

                              To do this properly he needs a sackcloth and possibly should think about shaving that head, too.
                              Are you referring to Yoda or St. Francis (i could be getting my saints wrong) ... either way it would be a fine look for the man ... better than this imagery:

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                              • Bendit wrote: View Post

                                Whot??? Demeaning Harris to Orange man's irredeemable toilet level status? The issues here as well are not comparable ... teachers pay & benefits vs. selective police brutality and racism? There are 1st amend. constitutional rights also trampled over by the Donald never mind brandishing the bible in a photo op. What was that?

                                But you saw humour ... so good.
                                The linkage.. however ephemeral ... is that both those guys take (Donnie) and took (Harris) CAT797F sized truckloads of sanctimonious vitriol from an activist media.

                                Trumpy Bear is still up and running so the final chapters are still to be written in this opus. Harris, according to an activist media, totally destroyed all that was holy and good in Ontario pretty much all by himself ... and yet here we are .....clearly up off of the mat and perhaps the richest fattest province in Canada.


                                Both are golfers though .. so theres that.

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