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  • slaw wrote: View Post
    LOL, $340 billion deficit. Good luck with that Ontario taxpayers, we're all out of ammo out West. If TMX was done, there were 3 LNG plants on the coast and Energy East was rolling it would be different but now it's all up to you. Oh, by the way, Quebec's going to need a pile of cash, too.
    Investment in a “greener and more diverse” economy is code language for 'don't worry about it Ontario & Quebec voters, we have you covered.'

    Wait and see.

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    • Apollo wrote: View Post

      Investment in a “greener and more diverse” economy is code language for 'don't worry about it Ontario & Quebec voters, we have you covered.'

      Wait and see.
      As someone involved in the 'greener and more diverse economy' right now, I can tell you that unless you are a banker, lawyer, consultant, landowner leasing the land, or some foreign owned corporation, you are not getting anything out of it. These projects are not big job creator nor do they generate the kinds of revenue that revitalize communities. If that's Prime Minister Mid-Life Crisis' plan, then what a disaster..

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      • Republicans who want to dump Trump just floated this ad. They should run the Dem campaign!


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        • How many times does Trudeau get to commit an ethics violation? This guy is the definition of corrupt and people just don't seem to care. I'm not sure if he's inept, or if he doesn't understand what a conflict of interest is, or if he really is a corrupt asshole. Probably some combination of the three. Regardless, this one won't affect him, just like the SNC Lavalin scandal didn't. I'm still not sure why we just moved on from that one as it represents everything wrong with politics today. Hopefully the conservatives can run someone who isn't as unappealing and aggravating as Scheer.

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          • Maury wrote: View Post
            How many times does Trudeau get to commit an ethics violation? This guy is the definition of corrupt and people just don't seem to care. I'm not sure if he's inept, or if he doesn't understand what a conflict of interest is, or if he really is a corrupt asshole. Probably some combination of the three. Regardless, this one won't affect him, just like the SNC Lavalin scandal didn't. I'm still not sure why we just moved on from that one as it represents everything wrong with politics today. Hopefully the conservatives can run someone who isn't as unappealing and aggravating as Scheer.
            Agree someone other than Andrew Scheer will help the CPC compete with the head of the LPC cult in the next election.

            Trudeau was out in front of the pack with high approval ratings on the response and overall good partnership with the provinces during the pandemic. So with that happening as the CPC leadership candidates gauaged their chances it seems the best of the lot never put up their hands thinking they couldn't win this time around.

            Ambrose is a better red tory than McKay and the time honoured abortion question would ring even hollower off of her. John Baird is a blue tory but who speaks fluent french vs O'Toole and Leslyn Lewis who aren't nearly as polished and can't speak any French. Taking on the flawlessy bilingual Trudeau in French is tough but Baird is up to it. The other two not so much. Sloan appears to be heir to Maxime Berniers niche libertarian support within the party.

            I always struggle to understand why the party fails to put its better people forward ....because you never know.

            And the you never know event was the self inflicted shot to the foot by JT by himself by somehow not seeing that the optics of giving a sole sourced billion dollar contract to a charity that regularly paid members of his family over the past 5 years for speaking engagments . Great work if you can get it, especially if your last name happens to be Trudeau. Not only are the optics really poor here but to make things worse for JT there is another flag on the play from the bipartisan ethics commissioner. Three in 5 years. A record even for the LPC.

            A few more stress cracks on the cult leader could make that next election an even battle despite the CPC's best available players not in the game. .
            Last edited by Demographic Shift; Sun Jul 12th, 2020, 09:40 PM.

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            • Why is it crickets from everyone about the WE thing? How does JT get away with this stuff lol.

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              • Maury wrote: View Post
                Why is it crickets from everyone about the WE thing? How does JT get away with this stuff lol.
                It has the makings of a hell of documentary...

                Featuring the Keilburger brothers. A couple of slick operators who operate their "charity" pretty much like a Bakker / Swaggart style Televangelist fleecing their flock of brain addled young white colonialist settlers. The Burger Boyz are aided and abetted by one Justin Trudeau, the vapid and judgmentally bereft head of State and his henchmen BIll "Middle Class" Morneau. I mean who just cuts a cheque for 41,366 dollars out of the family chequing account at the blink of an eye. It just screams everyday Canadian.

                It has a fantastic cast of characters ... Zany mothers, Secretive brothers an Enigmatic wife and a left of left media that if they didn't have a double standard would have no standards at all.

                We could call it Skippy and the Burger Boyz... A Rosie Barton Production.

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                • And the good ship WE begins to spring some pretty substantial leaks at the waterline.
                  Corporate donors are moving quickly to distance themselves from something that smells like bad fish.

                  Come early, bring your lawnchair, popcorn and the adult social beverage of your choice and watch as the Burger Boyz and Skippy try to throw someone under the bus.




                  The DS Sports Books early opening line on who the next christian who gets thrown into the lion pit at the Colosseum by Skippius Ceasar to save his own ass are :

                  Bardish Chaggar 3:1 (A junior minister with no authority to order cheese on a ham and cheese sandwhich let alone approve a billion dollar deal. But its her file and ministerial responsibility and all)

                  Bill " I forgot " Morneau 5:1 (The ever forgetful finance minister who forgot his villa in france, forgot not one .. but 2 of his daughters worked for WE and then lost or misplaced his receipts in the amount of 41K until the day of his testimony, then just cut a cheque for 41K out of the family account as his ass was in a sling. Its stunning actually. For anyone out there in sales you know the hoops you have to go through just to get a government figure to attend a briefing off premises let alone take a couple of flights on the WE party plane to Africa and the Caribbean.)

                  Ian Shugart 10:1 (The latest hand picked by Skippy Clerk of the Privy Council who somehow missed that WE was rolling $5M demand loans breaking their bank covenants and either whacked or lost all their board members )

                  Katie "The Rat" Telford 8:1 (Skippys Chief of Staff who does swing considerable weight in the gong show that is Trudeaus PMO. Teleford has long time links to the Burger Boyz and has "raised funds" for them. She has enough hubris to tell Skippy that this will blow over. The Rat will be testifying before committee.

                  Melanie Joly 20:1 (Perhaps the dumbest of Trudeaus front bench she just might volunteer to take the fall for El Jefe)

                  Margaret Trudeau 50:1 (Would El Jefe throw his own mother under the bus ? You bet your ass he would.)

                  Stephen Harper 1:1 (Because regardless of what the situation is that Skippy finds himself in ...its always Harper's fault)

                  Can't wait for Pierre Poilievre to start in on the Skipster. Its like his super bowl and Champions League all rolled up into one.
                  Wonder if Skippy uses his contrite voice or the firm "Mr. Mittens is angry" tone when being questioned by committee.
                  Last edited by Demographic Shift; Sun Jul 26th, 2020, 12:27 AM.

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                  • Chaggar is like 3:5. Trudeau always throws the woman under the bus: Rabould, Philpott, Chevannes. Guys like Trudeau use women as props (cause it's 2015!) but have no respect for women because they consider them as props. Joly is safe cause she was Justin's side piece for a long time and he needs Telford to run the government (scary as that is). Morneau is safe because they need his name and rep to cover for the PMO, plus, the front bench is so weak Trudeau has no one to replace him.

                    The most corrupt federal government in Canadian history.

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                    • The Keilburgers are now in sitting in front of the House Finance Committtee. They seem peeved they have to be there and that after their opening statements they have to stay for 4 hours.

                      First up is Co Chair Pierre Poilievre... and he is ripping holes in the Burger Boyz wider than Pacific Ocean.....

                      They're just regular hustlers who have had the bad fortune to get a little too close to the Trudeau muskeg.
                      Craig looks a little beat right now.. you know the look when your about to be exposed for something you just don't want to see the light of day.
                      Marc appears to be the well meaning but the dumb one.

                      The Bloc rep... Rheal Fortin ... is tiring of being treated like some dopey bystander by Craig K... Craig just said that they weren't in it for the money. The teflon is starting to peel off.

                      The Liberal rep ... asked the Burger Boyz if they like kittens or puppies more.

                      Wayne Easter the chair is doing a fantastic job moderating the committee. He has very civily pushed back on Angus and Poilievre. The Burger Boyz are sweating through their jackets right now and its hour 1. .

                      The NDP rep.. Charlie Angus is coming after them like a DE with a clear path to the QB.
                      He harpoons Marc on his firing of his CFO and shines a lot of light on 500M dollars that was coming to WE was deposited into a holding company for their real estate assets with no track record of charity. Again.. the go to defense is that this too is incorrect.
                      They're going to need a mop and pail to get the blood off the floor.



                      Streaming live on CPAC
                      https://www.cpac.ca/en/direct/cpac1/


                      When the left of left press in Canada start to turn on you... time for last rights.






                      The Burger Boyz are being flayed alive. That line from Urbak is a classic. They don't realize they are not talking to teenagers. Even the Liberal members are starting to ask hard questions. If you were to bet... I'd say Team Trudeau is about to throw them under the bus on Thursday.

                      Like the old Meatloaf song... these guys are now praying for the end of time.
                      Last edited by Demographic Shift; Tue Jul 28th, 2020, 02:38 PM.

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                      • Oh DS, so naïve and innocent. They lie because they know they know nothing will happen to them. They are not subject to the law. They are Liberals. They can do whatever they want. Plus, they already got rich off of this grift.

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                        • slaw wrote: View Post
                          Oh DS, so naïve and innocent. They lie because they know they know nothing will happen to them. They are not subject to the law. They are Liberals. They can do whatever they want. Plus, they already got rich off of this grift.
                          WIth the scars to prove it.. but I do love the young and innocent parts.

                          The Visigoths are at the gates of the Burger Boyz empire.
                          Their corporate sponsorships which are much greater than anything they had on the line with the Federalis (save for the Trudeau gift) are evaporating.
                          RBC, Telus, Virgin Altlantic have flipped them off and the Toronto School Boards are putting up the hold sign at third base with them.
                          The Burger Boyz aren't dumb by any means. They hold MBA's from Kellog and one is an actual Harvard grad. But being too smart by half they couldn't help themselves and set up up a series of holding companies and moved money around them like a guy on the street corner asking you to find the beer cap under the cup.

                          Perception is reality and the perception here is that these two guys are pretty evasive on their dealings and sound defensive when called to explain to the point of pontification. Their stock line while under fire was that everyone is wrong about them. Including the Board Chair that quit because she couldn't do her governance job due to lack of financial transparency on their part. The rear naked choke hold for a charity. The Burgers might have to tap out. They'll surface again... but in what manifestation is to be determined.

                          Cancel culture boomeranged them.

                          Last edited by Demographic Shift; Wed Jul 29th, 2020, 02:04 PM.

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                          • Maury wrote: View Post
                            Why is it crickets from everyone about the WE thing? How does JT get away with this stuff lol.
                            Chretien got away with Adscam and currently "works" for a major Canadian law firm. Mulroney had a bag of money from a payoff in a fridge from a convicted influence peddler and he "works" at a tier 2/tier 3 international law firm. Trudeau and his family and friends have been taking payoffs since 2015 and nothing has happened to any of them. Nothing will cause they are Liberals and they are from Quebec. The law does not apply to them.

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                            • slaw wrote: View Post

                              Chretien got away with Adscam and currently "works" for a major Canadian law firm. Mulroney had a bag of money from a payoff in a fridge from a convicted influence peddler and he "works" at a tier 2/tier 3 international law firm. Trudeau and his family and friends have been taking payoffs since 2015 and nothing has happened to any of them. Nothing will cause they are Liberals and they are from Quebec. The law does not apply to them.
                              SuperBowl for Pierre Poilievre kicks off in 20 minutes....

                              I have cleared by calendar today... Skippy goes in front of committee today with no training wheels...
                              It could be epic.

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                              • McFucknuts is live..........https://www.cpac.ca/en/direct/hoc5/4...nce-committee/

                                Its a sport for sure as Skippy in full windup on his opening remarks is stopped by a point of order... Same as a batter calling for time ....
                                Skippy stops .. and in full robot mode.... continues his speech after the point of order is discussed. Skippy looks pissed.

                                Skippy is in "Deny Deny Deny" mode.... No one knew anything. Im not sure thats the message you want to give.

                                Skippy leaning on his part time teaching career says .. direct quote "he has extensive experience with youth and their issues."
                                The Mr. Mittens soft voice is replaced for today as he is speaking like a normal human.ai

                                The first instance of who is to blame for this and who the tethered goat will be in his remarks....is ...... Its going to suck to be Bardish Chaggar today. She has been singled out twice .. as well as the public service as a whole. Interesting tack in that he is blaming others for his and Bill Morneau's decisions.
                                Skippy is saying its not his fault.. but then.. its never Skippys fault.

                                Skippy is borrowing the full "How Dare You" Greta Thunburg defense.

                                First up to ask the Skipster is.... Pierre Poilievre.and he launches into how much the family got paid by WE.
                                He doesn't know he says.
                                Poiliervre is more deferential to Skippy than to the BurgerBoyz.
                                Quite methodically he is ripping Skippy a second hole asking about money provided to one Sophie Gregoire. Skippy doesn't seem to know how much she got paid or even what hotel she stayed at in London. For all the married types out there... thats just to fantasmagorical to believe one might think.
                                Libs trying hard to run cover by using points of order to stop the bleeding. Have to admire the loyalty.


                                EDIT #1.

                                Kourtrakis.. running cover uses her 4 minutes of time to ask Justin if he likes his mom. Pithy.


                                Rheal Fortin.. The Bloc MP.. A son of Quebec comes out swinging against El Jefe. He is asking why he never checked the lobby register and why he never asked anyone if his familys very close ties to WE and the BurgerBoyz looked bad as they were not registred lobbyists.
                                He continues to pry away at the notion that Skippy never really knew the Burgers or why he lost track of Mr. Morneau's many free trips to Africa and that he didn't know anyone in his family worked for WE. Its the Sgt. Schultz defense. "I know nothing" .

                                Charlie Angus... the NDP leader in waiting after Jagmet finishes seppuku.
                                Goes after him for his third ethics pratfall and his judgement. Asks why after two slip ups he did it again. He is painting the picture that Trudeau is lying about his true relationship with the Burgers and that its pretty fantastic to believe that he didn't see this as a huge conflict of interest. Charlie is killing him. He asks why he wanted to privatize the 1$B grant program instead of letting the existing channels of the public service do this. Skippy is bleeding from his eyes. He is trying to frame his answerrs to the betterment of youth. Paid volunterism. An oxymoron no ?
                                CHarlies first round is over.

                                NEXT UP : Barrett and he is going after the decision making process. He is showing that that the explanation of the CIvil Service did this is poor. He is asking whose head is going to roll on the Lib team for this cockup. No answer. He asks again. Trudeau speaks of youth being underserved. Barrett skewers him with the line that cabinet makes decisions not the civil service and who in cabinet should shoulder responsibility. Trudeau looks bad. He also says he has no idea of the failings of the WE enterprise in their financials or the labyrinth of companies or the whacking of their board. His nose is growing by the second.

                                Next up is the McLeod .. Liberal MP and a visible minority. He is taking a minute to clear his throat. He is telling people where he lives and where his riding is located. He has yet to ask a question. 1 minute into his 2 minutes he asks a question on what the government is going to do to support young native people. Skippy tells the world he loves young people and wants to see them all succeed. Skippy is deeply grateful for the softball question. McLeod gets a second question out.. same as the first. The 3rd question is if about the service corps and CSSG. Remarkably skippy seems to have specific facts and figures on this liberal program where he doesn't know anything about WE.

                                Poilievrer asks Skippy if he has read the conflict of interest act. Skippy says of course he has. Polivevre asks about section 21. Skippy seems unaware of this section. In fact he seems unware of anything in the act. Poiliever hits him over the head with that. SKippy looks like he needs a lifeboat.
                                The power goes out for the Chair and Poilevere asks if someone is going to pull a fire alarm next. He uses the time to further eviserate the Skipster. Its a pretty good beatdown. How this reasonates with the good burghers of Toronto and Montreal remains to be seen.
                                Last edited by Demographic Shift; Thu Jul 30th, 2020, 04:10 PM.

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