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  • SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post

    That's not the true issue at hand. The Bidens could be guilty as sin and this would still be an improper and illegal way to ask that they were investigated.
    If it doesn't matter then why did you start your post by saying he asked Ukraine to make up lies about his political adversaries? He either did it or he didn't, can you share the proof with us so we're all in the loop? Thanks.

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    • Apollo wrote: View Post

      If it doesn't matter then why did you start your post by saying he asked Ukraine to make up lies about his political adversaries? He either did it or he didn't, can you share the proof with us so we're all in the loop? Thanks.
      I put 'manufucture' in parantheses because it is beside the point. But everyone that has looked into this, including the government of Ukraine, has found no wrongdoing on Biden's part.

      Ukraine’s former top law enforcement official says he repeatedly rebuffed demands by President Trump’s personal lawyer to investigate Joe Biden and his son, insisting he had seen no evidence of wrongdoing that he could pursue.

      In an interview, Yuri Lutsenko said while he was Ukraine’s prosecutor general he told Rudolph W. Giuliani that he would be happy to cooperate if the FBI or other U.S. authorities began their own investigation of the former vice president and his son Hunter but insisted they had not broken any Ukrainian laws to his knowledge.

      Lutsenko, who was fired as prosecutor general last month, said he had urged Giuliani to launch a U.S. inquiry and go to court if he had any evidence but not to use Ukraine to conduct a political vendetta that could affect the U.S. election.

      “I said, ‘Let’s put this through prosecutors, not through presidents,’ ” Lutsenko told The Times.

      “I told him I could not start an investigation just for the interests of an American official,” he said.
      https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...ongdoing-biden

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      • SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post

        I put 'manufucture' in parantheses because it is beside the point. But everyone that has looked into this, including the government of Ukraine, has found no wrongdoing on Biden's part.
        I think suggesting they tried to strong arm the Ukrainians to make up lies is a huge point. I don't see anything of that nature in that quote you posted. Where did they ask them to make up stuff?

        Fraud is not an afterthought. For sure he deserves to go if that was the request and there's proof.
        Last edited by Apollo; Tue Oct 1st, 2019, 12:44 PM.

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        • Canada’s political leaders will debate issues of affordability and economic insecurity,
          environment and energy
          , Indigenous issues, leadership, and human rights and immigration when they meet Monday for the first of two official election debates.
          Should be a riveting debate given that there is virtually zero room between the main parties on all of these issues but one.....
          Canada’s political leaders will debate issues of affordability and economic insecurity, environment and energy, Indigenous issues, leadership and human rights and immigration when they meet Monday for the first of two official election debates.

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          • Apollo wrote: View Post

            I think suggesting they tried to strong arm the Ukrainians to make up lies is a huge point. I don't see anything of that nature in that quote you posted. Where did they ask them to make up stuff?
            As I've already said, it really doesn't matter whether Trump actually thought the Bidens legitimately committed wrongdoings or not. What matters is that Trump strong armed them to re-open an investigation into his potential opponent in the upcoming election.

            At least you can admit that is wrong, or can you?

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            • I'm old enough to remember when the Liberals were going to balance the budget by now but that was way back in..... checks notes.... 2015.

              Nothing matters.
              The deficits are built on billions in new spending, as well as a large tax cut that raises the basic personal exemption on income taxes to $15,000 for those making less than $147,667 annually

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              • SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post

                As I've already said, it really doesn't matter whether Trump actually thought the Bidens legitimately committed wrongdoings or not. What matters is that Trump strong armed them to re-open an investigation into his potential opponent in the upcoming election.

                At least you can admit that is wrong, or can you?
                I can't get past the point where you said they asked the Ukrainians to lie. Break that down for me and I'll move on to answer this. Fraud is actually a clear cut crime. I don't know how that's besides the point. Fraud is a huge point.

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                • slaw wrote: View Post
                  I'm old enough to remember when the Liberals were going to balance the budget by now but that was way back in..... checks notes.... 2015.

                  Nothing matters.
                  Slaw, Trudeau is promising to spend more and lower taxes. We can't be bothered with details from the past. We're getting free shit so back off.

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                  • slaw wrote: View Post
                    I'm old enough to remember when the Liberals were going to balance the budget by now but that was way back in..... checks notes.... 2015.

                    Nothing matters.
                    balanced budgets mean not balanced budgets to this moron, wtf do promised deficits mean?

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                    • Apollo wrote: View Post

                      Slaw, Trudeau is promising to spend more and lower taxes. We can't be bothered with details from the past. We're getting free shit so back off.
                      Correction, other people are getting free stuff (i.e. the people who vote Liberal in Quebec and the Maritimes and Toronto). You and I will pay for it....

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                      • slaw wrote: View Post

                        Correction, other people are getting free stuff (i.e. the people who vote Liberal in Quebec and the Maritimes and Toronto). You and I will pay for it....
                        but you don't own anything, it is the government's to give away. remember his holiness obama told us we don't actually build the things we build, it belongs to canada communally.

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                        • Miekenstien wrote: View Post

                          balanced budgets mean not balanced budgets
                          Campaign promises, champagne promises.

                          There are elections to be won!

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                          • As I've been saying for months, Warren is going to win because the media wants Warren so that they can replay 2016. They failed Hilary but they won't fail again! Biden's biggest advantage was with black voters but that has started to dwindle and once she wins Iowa and New Hampshire, her credibility will increase with Dem voters. And all you have to do is watch Biden. He is physically deteriorating and the primaries haven't even begun.

                            Look, there's a reason Obama told him not to run in 2016 and hasn't endorsed him yet: Obama is a cut throat, machine politician from Chicago and he knows a loser when he sees one.
                            Raymond James says Wall Street is underestimating Elizabeth Warren's odds of winning the White House in 2020.

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                            • slaw wrote: View Post
                              As I've been saying for months, Warren is going to win because the media wants Warren so that they can replay 2016. They failed Hilary but they won't fail again! Biden's biggest advantage was with black voters but that has started to dwindle and once she wins Iowa and New Hampshire, her credibility will increase with Dem voters. And all you have to do is watch Biden. He is physically deteriorating and the primaries haven't even begun.

                              Look, there's a reason Obama told him not to run in 2016 and hasn't endorsed him yet: Obama is a cut throat, machine politician from Chicago and he knows a loser when he sees one.
                              but if biden isn't trump's political rival what will happen to impeachment?

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                              • Miekenstien wrote: View Post

                                but if biden isn't trump's political rival what will happen to impeachment?
                                Don't worry, the Dems have you covered. They are pushing for transcripts of all his conversations. Future Presidents are totally fucked. The only reason Trump weathers the storm is because he barely eeked out a ultra close victory despite all the baggage, closets of skeletons and washed up porn stars.

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