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  • #46
    And, right on cue, the Torys begin their ritualized pandering to the extortionists in Quebec.
    The Conservatives are targeting strategic seats in Quebec in the next federal election, believing they can attract sovereigntist voters who might otherwise vote for Bloc Québécois candidates.

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    • #47
      A story that should absolutely be part of the election. $40 isn't a high enough tax to have any effect (or at least any material one), so, what is? The parties advocating for a carbon tax should be made to disclose precise numbers and detailed figures about what amount of tax will reduce carbon emissions and by how much and how much such reductions will affect temperatures (global, national, hemispheric - they pick). Seems like that should have been the basic starting point....
      B.C.'s GHG emissions have now increased in five of the last seven years. Carbon pollution is back up to the 2007 level of 64.8 million tonnes.

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      • #48
        slaw wrote: View Post

        Of course it gets a meh from you. Why would this be an issue that the most progressive, social justice prime minister in history need to address? Especially since it doesn't matter what the courts say cause Quebec has already asserted the notwithstanding clause to protect the legislation. Perhaps the champion of the people could use his moral authority and righteousness to speak out against the blatant bigotry? Nah, votes might be at risk. I wonder if Trudeau would be as silent if Saskatchewan banned black people from holding government jobs. It's a mystery....
        Hasn't he already spoken out against the ban? Legislatively I don't think there's much that can be done; so politically, why not leave it to the courts?

        You just seem disappointed he's not putting his foot in it.
        Last edited by SkywalkerAC; Tue Sep 10th, 2019, 03:08 PM.

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        • #49
          slaw wrote: View Post
          A story that should absolutely be part of the election. $40 isn't a high enough tax to have any effect (or at least any material one), so, what is? The parties advocating for a carbon tax should be made to disclose precise numbers and detailed figures about what amount of tax will reduce carbon emissions and by how much and how much such reductions will affect temperatures (global, national, hemispheric - they pick). Seems like that should have been the basic starting point....
          Would be good to compare against emissions projections (if a carbon tax hadn't been levied) given BC's continued economic, and corresponding population, growth.
          Last edited by SkywalkerAC; Tue Sep 10th, 2019, 03:13 PM.

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          • #50
            slaw wrote: View Post
            A story that should absolutely be part of the election. $40 isn't a high enough tax to have any effect (or at least any material one), so, what is? The parties advocating for a carbon tax should be made to disclose precise numbers and detailed figures about what amount of tax will reduce carbon emissions and by how much and how much such reductions will affect temperatures (global, national, hemispheric - they pick). Seems like that should have been the basic starting point....
            C'mon slaw, $40/tonne has been in place in BC for exactly 5 months, and you're thinking that's plenty long enough to figure out if it'll have a material impact? Seriously? Lol



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            • #51
              Joey wrote: View Post

              C'mon slaw, $40/tonne has been in place in BC for exactly 5 months, and you're thinking that's plenty long enough to figure out if it'll have a material impact? Seriously? Lol


              Say it louder my friend
              Louder.

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              • #52
                Joey wrote: View Post

                C'mon slaw, $40/tonne has been in place in BC for exactly 5 months, and you're thinking that's plenty long enough to figure out if it'll have a material impact? Seriously? Lol


                Oh no, not the Start Trek GIFs! I'm thoroughly defeated.

                Dude, they've had a carbon tax for 10 years. It was supposed to stop at $30 but it then went up to $35 and now $40. Despite all of that, any gains from the early years (geez, I wonder what happened in 2007-09?) have been completely wiped out. Ok, so let's be more precise: an average carbon of [$x] did not reduce emissions in BC at all over a 10-year period. How much greater than [$x] will the tax need to be in future to cause reductions over the entirety of the country, by how much and how much will such reductions reduce country/hemispheric/global temperatures?

                I mean, it's essential to stop the destruction of the planet, right? So, surely, someone's run the numbers. Right?

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                • #53
                  Gon be another 4 years of JT, isn't it...the combination of Scheers boring, beta male nothingness and the general distaste for Singh and the NDP from coast to coast means the liberals will take the golden horseshoe, enough of Quebec, and the minority government..

                  Man, he's so beatable this time around too. 37 million Canadians and these are the dorks that are best fit to lead? Oy vay
                  It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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                  • #54
                    KeonClark wrote: View Post
                    Gon be another 4 years of JT, isn't it...the combination of Scheers boring, beta male nothingness and the general distaste for Singh and the NDP from coast to coast means the liberals will take the golden horseshoe, enough of Quebec, and the minority government..

                    Man, he's so beatable this time around too. 37 million Canadians and these are the dorks that are best fit to lead? Oy vay
                    This polling aggregator has it at 41% that the Liberals win a majority (vs 11% for Conservatives to do the same).

                    https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec...racker/canada/

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                    • #55
                      So its tip off tomorrow.Sept 11. Six full weeks to see if Skippy steps on his dick down the stretch....
                      I bet he does. At some point he comes off script and the country gets a look at the hologram.

                      So seeing that we are killing time till ball starts up lets do a preseason who is going to win the derby on Oct 21.

                      The NDP In what looks to be a big miss the NDP abandoned their union and rural power bases in the hopes of attracting the soft liberal vote in the bigger cities to the cause. This has been what can only be described as taking the boat up right onto the rocks. Jagmeet Singh is by all observations a pretty decent stand up guy. But who ever is setting the strategy at NDP central command should be shot a dawn. Singh will be lucky to get to 10 seats. Have to think the NDP don't pick up his option. Best compare. The Phoenix Suns. Bad as bad can be.

                      The Greens. This years up and comers looked to be sailing along smoothly. Until the last two days. So much can change in politics and the Greens don't seem to have their act together as some candidates are talking about their unfettered right to go against party policy on the reopening of the abortion debate or quebec separatism. They are on their third clarification this morning. For the first time Liz has to crack some heads to maintain the narrative and stay on script. Can she do it ? We shall see. I think they should recover from falling down right out of the blocks. They still manage to take some disaffected NDP and Liberal voters and put at least 10 or more members into the HoC. Look for the greens to take some seats on both coasts. .Best compare. The Sacramento Kings. Close but not close enough.

                      The PC's.
                      Polls today are showing a statistical dead heat but with the PC's small percentage points ahead in popular vote. The Tories own the turf west of thunder bay to the rockies. Their challenge is to attract enough undecided voters in the belts in the 905 in Toronto and the 438 in Montreal. The PC base is committed and will get out to vote. The questions facing the PC's is can Andrew Scheer step up and show the undecideds and soft liberal vote he will work in their interests. He and the Tory braintrust will have to overcome and show how one sided will the media coverage be from the CBC. CTV and Global. He will get seats back in NS and NB. Can he get the Mulroney coalition with the Quebec nationalist vote and the 905 in Ontario. It will be tough but will enough people just hold their nose and vote skippy. Even Joey is putting his go Liberal sign up in the back yard and not the front this time around. Best compare. The Milwaukee Bucks. A good regular season but the playoffs are here.

                      The Liberals.
                      Polls show their strength to be in the urban landscape of the country in eastern Canada and among millennials. The Liberals aren't running on their record and have opted instead to use fear as the prime motivator. If you don't vote for us then the specter of Harper and Doug Ford is going to win and that would be bad for you. Oh so bad. Its not a particularly sunny ways strategy but its what they think will win for them because the shit stains of SNC, TransMountain and the firing of JWR and Philpot, a spotty record on the economy and some really really dumb moves on international trade with India and China have put a pretty conspicuous dent in Skippys claims of what he says he is and what he actually is. The gaping hole in their support is whether or not the millennials come out to vote. There is no single issue this time around like legalization to motivate that demographic this time around. You can only get so worked up about single use plastic straws, apologies and looking under your bed for a bogeyman thats not there. Best compare and you don't need a map to read this one.The Boston Celtics. Cuz.. Just Fuck Boston.

                      So when an election is called I always remember the line from The Who's Won't Get Fooled Again "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."

                      Hope everyone gets out and makes their voice heard.

                      Go Bucks !
                      Last edited by Demographic Shift; Wed Sep 11th, 2019, 08:20 AM.

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                      • #56
                        Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
                        So its tip off tomorrow.Sept 11. Six full weeks to see if Skippy steps on his dick down the stretch....
                        I bet he does. At some point he comes off script and the country gets a look at the hologram.

                        So seeing that we are killing time till ball starts up lets do a preseason who is going to win the derby on Oct 21.

                        The NDP In what looks to be a big miss the NDP abandoned their union and rural power bases in the hopes of attracting the soft liberal vote in the bigger cities to the cause. This has been what can only be described as taking the boat up right onto the rocks. Jagmeet Singh is by all observations a pretty decent stand up guy. But who ever is setting the strategy at NDP central command should be shot a dawn. Singh will be lucky to get to 10 seats. Have to think the NDP don't pick up his option. Best compare. The Phoenix Suns. Bad as bad can be.

                        The Greens. This years up and comers looked to be sailing along smoothly. Until the last two days. So much can change in politics and the Greens don't seem to have their act together as some candidates are talking about their unfettered right to go against party policy on the reopening of the abortion debate or quebec separatism. They are on their third clarification this morning. For the first time Liz has to crack some heads to maintain the narrative and stay on script. Can she do it ? We shall see. I think they should recover from falling down right out of the blocks. They still manage to take some disaffected NDP and Liberal voters and put at least 10 or more members into the HoC. Look for the greens to take some seats on both coasts. .Best compare. The Sacramento Kings. Close but not close enough.

                        The PC's.
                        Polls today are showing a statistical dead heat but with the PC's small percentage points ahead in popular vote. The Tories own the turf west of thunder bay to the rockies. Their challenge is to attract enough undecided voters in the belts in the 905 in Toronto and the 438 in Montreal. The PC base is committed and will get out to vote. The questions facing the PC's is can Andrew Scheer step up and show the undecideds and soft liberal vote he will work in their interests. He and the Tory braintrust will have to overcome and show how one sided will the media coverage be from the CBC. CTV and Global. He will get seats back in NS and NB. Can he get the Mulroney coalition with the Quebec nationalist vote and the 905 in Ontario. It will be tough but will enough people just hold their nose and vote skippy. Even Joey is putting his go Liberal sign up in the back yard and not the front this time around. Best compare. The Milwaukee Bucks. A good regular season but the playoffs are here.

                        The Liberals.
                        Polls show their strength to be in the urban landscape of the country in eastern Canada and among millennials. The Liberals aren't running on their record and have opted instead to use fear as the prime motivator. If you don't vote for us then the specter of Harper and Doug Ford is going to win and that would be bad for you. Oh so bad. Its not a particularly sunny ways strategy but its what they think will win for them because the shit stains of SNC, TransMountain and the firing of JWR and Philpot, a spotty record on the economy and some really really dumb moves on international trade with India and China have put a pretty conspicuous dent in Skippys claims of what he says he is and what he actually is. The gaping hole in their support is whether or not the millennials come out to vote. There is no single issue this time around like legalization to motivate that demographic this time around. You can only get so worked up about single use plastic straws, apologies and looking under your bed for a bogeyman thats not there. Best compare and you don't need a map to read this one.The Boston Celtics. Cuz.. Just Fuck Boston.

                        So when an election is called I always remember the line from The Who's Won't Get Fooled Again "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."

                        Hope everyone gets out and makes their voice heard.

                        Go Bucks !
                        PPC. Liberal fears of truth, reason and equality actually being spoken at debates has terrified the boy king, and he has transparently not allowed bernier to speak. Uncanadian levels of fear mongering directed at our neighbours who would be wrong thoughtful enough to vote for canada instead of a corrupted established party that will help no one but themselves. with the expansion draft complete, we will have to wait and see if the future canadians are able to think for themselves or will continue to be spoon fed communist lies.

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                        • #57
                          How will Trudeau successfully navigate the Quebec political minefield when it strong opposes his stance? Should be interesting.

                          For the record, I think kids should be protected against indoctrination into any religious or cultural belief system(s) in school. Does a piece of jewelry pose a risk? I don't know how it does. That said, children are in school to be prepared to be healthy, productive contributors to society and nothing else.

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                          • #58
                            Apollo wrote: View Post
                            How will Trudeau successfully navigate the Quebec political minefield when it strong opposes his stance? Should be interesting.

                            For the record, I think kids should be protected against indoctrination into any religious or cultural belief system(s) in school. Does a piece of jewelry pose a risk? I don't know how it does. That said, children are in school to be prepared to be healthy, productive contributors to society and nothing else.
                            Should be nothing but maths, reading, and computer skills happening in our public schools, until the kid hits high school and makes decisions for himself.

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                            • #59
                              Miekenstien wrote: View Post

                              Should be nothing but maths, reading, and computer skills happening in our public schools, until the kid hits high school and makes decisions for himself.
                              I think high school'ers should be protected too. The human brain isn't even fully mature until 25. Let's get them out of of the school with a solid educational foundation and with the ability to think critically. Then they can decide what they want.

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                              • #60
                                Apollo wrote: View Post

                                I think high school'ers should be protected too. The human brain isn't even fully mature until 25. Let's get them out of of the school with a solid educational foundation and with the ability to think critically. Then they can decide what they want.
                                By the time you're 15 or 16, for most kids, you may not know what you want to do, but you know what it is you WONT be doing. Do you need to be taking poetry at an 11th grade level if you clearly love building stuff with your hands?
                                It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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