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  • Oh! ....what do we have here? Good buds meet again... under different circumstances, perhaps...




    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/joh..._autoplay=true

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    • Great News... in Hong Kong elections 7 of 10 voters supported the Democracy movement. An electoral wipeout of those supporting Beijing.

      Hope this results in peace and stoppage of violence though I can't see Beijing giving up administrative authority over HK.... unfortunately.

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      • Bendit wrote: View Post
        Great News... in Hong Kong elections 7 of 10 voters supported the Democracy movement. An electoral wipeout of those supporting Beijing.

        Hope this results in peace and stoppage of violence though I can't see Beijing giving up administrative authority over HK.... unfortunately.
        Sadly, it will probably do the opposite. If Hong Kong successfully shakes off Beijing, then the dominoes could start to fall and the commies won't have that - too many lampposts in the mainland with no necks hanging from them calling their names. Having said that, the current trade war with China has demonstrated to the Chinese that they aren't as impervious to outside pressure as they thought.

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        • slaw wrote: View Post

          Sadly, it will probably do the opposite. If Hong Kong successfully shakes off Beijing, then the dominoes could start to fall and the commies won't have that - too many lampposts in the mainland with no necks hanging from them calling their names. Having said that, the current trade war with China has demonstrated to the Chinese that they aren't as impervious to outside pressure as they thought.
          This is a quite complex issue in that China does have a legal claim to jurisdiction over HK (imo) ...probably more so than Taiwan. The Brits saw this when they did the deal to vacate with a buffer period to ensure an orderly process. I am not sure what the mainland is thinking here other than trying to impose their will over a small (and very profitable area) ... purely for domestic political and save-face reasons.... or that they want to incorporate the HK financial centre and system into their own setup in Shanghai etc.

          But again, kudos to some very very brave locals who were really left to fend for themselves by the "internationals" ...made Xi and his boys blink at least. They had to conclude that they were losing international public opinion. China should just leave them alone and continue with their own self incorporation into the global system of finance and political alignment or domination (which they seek).

          Did not realize that there are about 300,000 HK/Canadians affected.

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          • slaw wrote: View Post

            Sadly, it will probably do the opposite. If Hong Kong successfully shakes off Beijing, then the dominoes could start to fall and the commies won't have that - too many lampposts in the mainland with no necks hanging from them calling their names. Having said that, the current trade war with China has demonstrated to the Chinese that they aren't as impervious to outside pressure as they thought.
            i am waiting for the ccp reactions to the elections. i expect 3 things that can happen. 1) they use the new anti-communist politicians as a buffer until the next election, it doesn't matter they are anti-ccp, they can't pass laws without the hand picked beijing rep signing off on them, and just clear the streets and start the strangulation again. 2) they quickly and loudly condemn the elections and protests, and threaten military action if hong kong thinks about independence. 3) claim election fraud and have another one.

            the trade war has been the best thing for the world in showing china that the ccp controls one part of the world only. their goal is a veto over everything and the ability to say yes/no on every issue, it is friendship with chinese characteristics.

            xi is a full on maoist, i liked hu jintao. i thought he was a humble quiet leader that was opening and liberalizing china. hu is a commie graduate, like westpoint for commies, and xi is a princeling, his family was friendly with mao and came up for the ride. as is the way of the communist, xi's father fell out of favor and became a traitor and enemy of the state, sent to re-education camp, like the last emperor for anyone who has seen that movie.

            fun fact. xi's wife was the one who sang to the pla troops that murdered everyone in tianamen.

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            • crowder recreated the jail cell, and tried his best to kill himself. i am of the belief that epstien didn't kill himself.

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              • Party of science getting help from Twitter overlords to ban hate facts. A super science paper comes out about how Republicans and the deep south kill trannies. Clear evidence of hatred and bigotry, when it is pointed out that they are killed less than the average population, and that their murderers tend to be people they know, and overwhelming murdered by black people, the white supramcist Andy ngo is banned from Twitter. I remember all the super science guys that banned statistics if they pointed to something different then the forgone conclusion of the scientists. We always called them scientists, and let them tell us what to do.


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                • The big social media platforms aren't there to defend freedom of speech. They're there to defend the ad revenue streams. I've come to the hypothesis that they come down harder of certain fringe views than other fringe views because of influences by these "sponsors".

                  The platforms are global entities and most places don't have freedom of speech laws like America. So here we are.

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                  • Apollo wrote: View Post
                    The big social media platforms aren't there to defend freedom of speech. They're there to defend the ad revenue streams. I've come to the hypothesis that they come down harder of certain fringe views than other fringe views because of influences by these "sponsors".

                    The platforms are global entities and most places don't have freedom of speech laws like America. So here we are.
                    Yes, agreed. I think your last point is the biggest one. They aren't American companies. They are globalist companies. There are new options coming out now, bitchute and whatever the patreon alternative that Jordan Peterson is working on.

                    I expect Trump to really start pushing forced acceptance of differences during the election run. I expect censorship to be a big issue.

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                    • Miekenstien wrote: View Post
                      I expect Trump to really start pushing forced acceptance of differences during the election run. I expect censorship to be a big issue.
                      Is that implied confidence that he lives to fight another day?

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                      • This is impossible. Canada has a carbon tax now. Climate change has been solved.
                        The level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere hit a record high in 2018, according to new data put out by the World Meteorological Organization, a revelation that casts a dim light on Canada’s current methods in battling the climate crisis.

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                        • Apollo wrote: View Post

                          Is that implied confidence that he lives to fight another day?
                          #walkaway, there are no Trump voters that feel like they voted wrong. There are liberals(not communists) who do, and independents who thought Hillary was the safe one.

                          Yesterday saw a poll that Trump is up to 30% black support, and 30% Mexican support. He has big time support with anyone who escaped communism(the Cubans), and anyone who likes their own stuff, and freedom.

                          I now expect the house to vote against impeachment, claim they are honorable defenders of truth, and not terrified that lying shifty shift, crackhead having sex with dead brothers wife and sireing a Ukrainian whore bastard biden, and sleep Joe will be forced to testify and held accountable.

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                          • slaw wrote: View Post
                            This is impossible. Canada has a carbon tax now. Climate change has been solved.
                            Do you think maybe higher taxes, and more socialism could fix it?

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                            • slaw wrote: View Post
                              This is impossible. Canada has a carbon tax now. Climate change has been solved.

                              Do carbon taxes decrease emissions?


                              Income and sales taxes exist to raise money for government services like health care and education. Environmental taxes are different. Their purpose is to create price incentives for consumers to conserve energy or switch to less carbon-intensive fuels.

                              Consumers respond to prices. At the grocery store, if the price of cauliflower goes up, you might buy broccoli instead. The same is true for fossil fuels.

                              When the price of gasoline increases, people are more likely to combine trips, take the bus or buy a more fuel-efficient vehicle. When home heating is more expensive, they’re more likely to fix leaks or install a smart thermostat.

                              Research shows that carbon taxes work in reducing carbon pollution.

                              People often ask how a carbon tax can work if the government is giving all the money back.

                              Let’s say you received a pay raise before you went to the grocery store. Even with more money in your bank account, you’d still consider whether to buy the broccoli instead of the more expensive cauliflower.

                              It’s the same with carbon tax rebates. Although households will get money back through their taxes, consumers will still respond to changes in fossil fuel prices.
                              https://theconversation.com/heres-wh...for-you-114671

                              lol
                              Last edited by Apollo; Tue Nov 26th, 2019, 11:13 AM.

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                              • Miekenstien wrote: View Post

                                Do you think maybe higher taxes, and more socialism could fix it?
                                They've solved every other problem in Canada.....

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