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  • 1 million useless ventilators sent to us from our dear friends in the ccp. After we sent them all those nice ones before.
    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...=mmx&PC=EMMX20

    It's ok though, they aren't England, or America, so it must just be an accident, and not governmental intent to harm the citizens of thier countries.

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    • Miekenstien wrote: View Post

      I agree with all of this. Where have I said anything beyond

      1.Asking us to stay home is acceptable, and we should do it.

      2.Forcing us under house arrest is against our rights.

      Spain is keeping their ubi. Think our guy isn't waiting for his chance? They are the same team. Aoc is talking about workers just refusing to go back, because the government will pay forever right?
      But its not. It's legal and if they didn't do it self isolation would have failed but it instead is starting to work. They should be taking it a step further and requiring a face covering in all stores until COVID19 is contained. Just having the policy on planes is not far enough in my view.

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      • Apollo wrote: View Post

        But its not. It's legal and if they didn't do it self isolation would have failed but it instead is starting to work. They should be taking it a step further and requiring a face covering in all stores until COVID19 is contained. Just having the policy on planes is not far enough in my view.
        Diagree. No evidence that giving us all the information, and guidelines on how to keep ourselves, and fellow Canadians safe wouldn't have been enough.

        For example while we were drinking communist kool-aid, the leader of the who is a wonderful doctor I'm told, countries with actual leaders were closing down travel to lying communists, and taking steps to protect their citizens. We were importing Iranians, and Chinese by the 747 full.

        While our leaders should have been suggesting how to stay safe they were chastising us and telling us not to be racist, in so far as Italy making "hug a Chinese" a real thing.

        This wasn't a pandemic when it was just inside China, super weird that it was able to be contained while China destroyed evidence, arrested doctors, and forcibly quartined 40 million people. I said in the other thread, I don't listen to what communists say, I watch what they do.

        Virus leaves China, bam commie "doctor" at the who declares a global pandemic. Super super weird.

        I said in the other thread they do nothing now, and then they will get draconian.

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        • I don't believe it will go that way here or to our neighbor to the south. One of the reasons it got out of hand is because China was lying to the world and disappearing anyone who posed as a threat to the lie. The culprit is China.

          Canada could have handled it better in the beginning, I agree but that too would have involved trampling on your rights and the rights of those Canadians coming back home from a couple of the countries you named. I wish they had great screening back then and better policies but damn, this sneaked up fast because of lies from China.

          There's evidence that it was already spreading in NA by late/early Jan/Feb.

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          • KeonClark wrote: View Post



            Isn't that kind of them? They're allowing us to walk, or roll around in the dirt on our own private property. Now, if I was a dog, I'd be fucking thrilled by this news and freedom I've been given. But as a human, the novelty of walking down my residential block and back dissipated a few weeks ago.
            What I am wondering is what do the authorities think is going to happen when they decide to rescind all these orders?

            Keon, what does your girlfriend think about all this?

            By the way, was told by a guy who was at Foothills (big Calgary hospital) for his baby's birth that the staff is all out back eating together outside in big groups. No masks. No social distancing.

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            • https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/w...irus-5b0njl68r

              Behind a paywall.

              "we need big brother to defeat the virus" is the title of the article.

              Why would anyone think there is an agenda here.
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              • Apollo wrote: View Post

                But its not. It's legal and if they didn't do it self isolation would have failed but it instead is starting to work. They should be taking it a step further and requiring a face covering in all stores until COVID19 is contained. Just having the policy on planes is not far enough in my view.
                COVID-19 is not going to be contained.

                We might be able to immunize against it but that's not a given. And herd immunity may or may not work. Not sure anyone knows yet. It is also quite possible that it circulate seasonally and virtually everyone gets it from time to time and a bunch of people die from it.

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                • Apollo wrote: View Post
                  I don't believe it will go that way here or to our neighbor to the south. One of the reasons it got out of hand is because China was lying to the world and disappearing anyone who posed as a threat to the lie. The culprit is China.

                  Canada could have handled it better in the beginning, I agree but that too would have involved trampling on your rights and the rights of those Canadians coming back home from a couple of the countries you named. I wish they had great screening back then and better policies but damn, this sneaked up fast because of lies from China.

                  There's evidence that it was already spreading in NA by late/early Jan/Feb.
                  100% agree this is all china's fault. Now if China wasn't communist, maybe they would have tried something different. There is a pattern here with socialists lying every single time something doesn't go according to their God king's grand design.

                  I don't blame Justin. I don't blame Trump. I don't blame whoever is leader of Italy. I blame the lying communists, and their lying ideology.

                  As the actual truth enters the nether it is picked up by don lemon, and Rachel maddow, and then they lie.

                  Alex Jones is crazy, and almost always wrong.

                  Don lemon and Rachel maddow purposely lie to fit a narrative.


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                  • slaw wrote: View Post

                    COVID-19 is not going to be contained.

                    We might be able to immunize against it but that's not a given. And herd immunity may or may not work. Not sure anyone knows yet. It is also quite possible that it circulate seasonally and virtually everyone gets it from time to time and a bunch of people die from it.
                    When I say contain I mean more along the lines of control. To contain a surge.

                    I read that NL just reported a full week of no new cases. Sure it may be still lurking but maybe it's not. It was only a few weeks ago that they jumped from a few to multiple hundreds, one of the highest growth rates in the country. No way you hear a story like that with optional self isolation by the way.

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                    • slaw wrote: View Post

                      What I am wondering is what do the authorities think is going to happen when they decide to rescind all these orders?

                      Keon, what does your girlfriend think about all this?

                      By the way, was told by a guy who was at Foothills (big Calgary hospital) for his baby's birth that the staff is all out back eating together outside in big groups. No masks. No social distancing.
                      She's different than me in that she's go with the flow and doesn't usually have a passionate strong take on anything, whereas I'm the opposite (not sure if you guys have noticed). Often times when pressed for her opinion, I'll get "ah well, what can ya do?"...but anyway I can't speak for Foothills, she works at Rockyview, but its a pretty tight ship over there in regards to PPE and social distancing whenever possible. I think at Rockyview they currently they have 7 people with Covid, give or take 1 or 2, in an isolated unit. I don't believe they've had a single covid death at the hospital yet. If they have, she doesn't know about it.
                      It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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                      • https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/southern-...d-19-1.4906249
                        LETHBRIDGE, ALTA. -- Researchers at the University of Lethbridge say while clinical trials still need to be done, data they’ve been collecting over the past four years shows promise that some cannabis extracts may help in the prevention and treatment of COVID-19.
                        "Imagine a cell being a large building," says Igor. "Cannabinoids decrease the number of doors in the building by, say, 70 per cent, so it means the level of entry will be restricted. So, therefore, you have more chance to fight it."
                        The early discoveries indicate the cannabis extracts could be used in inhalers, mouthwash and throat gargle products for both clinical practice and at-home treatment.
                        Ummm, they missed some obvious delivery methods.

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                        • Did the Swedes get it right?

                          Sweden could reach 'herd immunity' in weeks, top doctor says
                          Sweden has faced some criticism for not imposing a lockdown amid the coronavirus outbreak.

                          https://thehill.com/changing-america...y-in-weeks-top










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                          • Apollo wrote: View Post
                            https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/southern-...d-19-1.4906249


                            Ummm, they missed some obvious delivery methods.
                            I'M IMMUNE TO ALL DISEASE!

                            nate dog was right, and I listened.

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                            • golden wrote: View Post
                              Did the Swedes get it right?

                              Sweden could reach 'herd immunity' in weeks, top doctor says
                              Sweden has faced some criticism for not imposing a lockdown amid the coronavirus outbreak.

                              https://thehill.com/changing-america...y-in-weeks-top


                              I read that herd immunity for COVID19 requires approx 70% of the population to have antibodies. Sweden's population is around 10,000,000 so wouldn't that require 7,000,000 infections, not 16,000? How many people are they testing? How good aggressive are they tracing contacts and testing those? I question the numbers.

                              Here's an interesting article on herd immunity: https://www.sciencealert.com/why-her...id-19-pandemic

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                              • Apollo wrote: View Post

                                I read that herd immunity for COVID19 requires approx 70% of the population to have antibodies. Sweden's population is around 10,000,000 so wouldn't that require 7,000,000 infections, not 16,000? How many people are they testing? How good aggressive are they tracing contacts and testing those? I question the numbers.

                                Here's an interesting article on herd immunity: https://www.sciencealert.com/why-her...id-19-pandemic
                                16,000 tested. That is a meaningless number.

                                Tegnell told CNBC data indicate 20 percent of Stockholm’s population is already immune to the virus, and that “in a few weeks’ time we might reach her immunity and we believe that is why we’re seeing a slow decline in cases, in spite of sampling [testing for the coronavirus] more and more.”

                                And then this, the same story as everywhere else:

                                “Unfortunately the mortality rate is high due to the introduction in elderly care homes and we are investigating the cause of that,” Tegnell told CNBC.
                                It's not some freak thing thats causing it to get into nursing homes, its just that those are the only people weak enough to die of it. Everybody all over the world is getting fucking corona virus, we're at about 20% infected now by estimates in california and new york too, Canada won't be that far behind. It now seems a huge majority never even know they had it, people say its like a cold, no, its like a non existent symptom. But obviously great grandma gertrude who needs an oxygen tank everyday is in trouble if she gets it, its the straw that breaks her 94 year old back.
                                It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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