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  • Apollo wrote: View Post

    I read that herd immunity for COVID19 requires approx 70% of the population to have antibodies. Sweden's population is around 10,000,000 so wouldn't that require 7,000,000 infections, not 16,000? How many people are they testing? How good aggressive are they tracing contacts and testing those? I question the numbers.

    Here's an interesting article on herd immunity: https://www.sciencealert.com/why-her...id-19-pandemic
    We all know that there's like 10-100X more cases than what has actually been tested. Let's assume it's 20X more than reported, or 320,000 cases in the general population. With such a highly contagious virus and relaxed measures, you can conservatively assume cases are at the very least doubling per week. That's only 5 more weeks to get to > 10M cases.

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    • Ok, but it's not that simple. Studies have shown that DNA has an impact. Studies have shown that there are more than 30 strains of COVID and...
      the most aggressive strains were found to generate as much as 270 times as much viral load as the weakest strains. The aggressive strains also killed the human cells the fastest.
      https://www.jpost.com/health-science...y-finds-625333

      So which strain is in Sweden? Who knows?

      Also it's not just a out who dies right now that is important. Consider the long term implications, consider the damage it does to survivors:

      In particular it attacks the immune system similarly to HIV. HIV leads to AIDS if untreated. HIV once was a death sentence. COVID19 has no treatment:
      Fighting COVID-19 exhausts T cells
      as disease severity progresses in patients with COVID-19, a concomitant rise in inflammatory cytokine levels may drive the depletion and exhaustion of T cell populations.
      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-0304-7
      More and more people compare it to HIV,” said the doctor who requested not to be named due to the sensitivity of the issue.
      T lymphocytes, also known as T cells, play a central role in identifying and eliminating alien invaders in the body.
      the virus and T-cells might end up dying together.
      https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...ing-protective
      In humans, recent studies have shown that declines in thymic T-cell regenerative capacity begins relatively early in life, resulting in a limited capacity for T-cell regeneration by young adulthood.
      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9476668

      It also damages the heart, it damages the circulatory system, it damages the lungs, it damages the liver and it causes neurological damage.

      And they have no clue how long you'd be immune if you do have immunity but it may be a low as less than a year. Not to mention there are numerous cases of people who passed testing catching it again.

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      • Seems to attack skin pigmentation too.
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....-recovery/amp/

        For Chinese, having black skin is worse than the other side effects. They hate it, to them a dark skinned chinese is a peasant farmer who works rice fields.
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        • Ford is testing buzzing wristbands to keep workers 'socially distanced'

          New safety protocols being trialed ahead of company's restarting production at factories

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          • Miekenstien wrote: View Post
            Seems to attack skin pigmentation too.
            https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....-recovery/amp/

            For Chinese, having black skin is worse than the other side effects. They hate it, to them a dark skinned chinese is a peasant farmer who works rice fields.
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            Not sure if it's the same story but I read how it was damaging some people's livers in China and changing their skin color as a result.

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            • Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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              • Apollo wrote: View Post

                Not sure if it's the same story but I read how it was damaging some people's livers in China and changing their skin color as a result.
                Yes, it says liver damage. Maybe an accute form of jaundice and because they are yellow people they turn black.

                Generally all Chinese men smoke, only met a handful that didn't,and these doctors will be smoking and spitting on the floors of their hospitals.

                Baijiu breakfasts aren't uncommon, and every group dinner is spent with very heavy drinking, and smoking.

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                • Miekenstien wrote: View Post
                  Generally all Chinese men smoke, only met a handful that didn't,and these doctors will be smoking and spitting on the floors of their hospitals.

                  Baijiu breakfasts aren't uncommon, and every group dinner is spent with very heavy drinking, and smoking.
                  lol I wonder what is the average lifespan of someone living in China?

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                  • Quite surprising really...if their statistics are to be believed: China 76.47 years
                    USA. 78.54
                    Canada 82.25

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                    • meductic wrote: View Post
                      Quite surprising really...if their statistics are to be believed: China 76.47 years
                      USA. 78.54
                      Canada 82.25
                      The older ones have good diets, and the women especially stay active. Giant groups of old women gather at all the malls and public parks for week night exercise. The young women all do yoga to grab a rich man, and then live well. The young men all hang out at net bars playing computer games, and smoking until they get a girlfriend and she helps him with his ambition.

                      The women actually run China. They are ferocious animals, and crazy like a fox.
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                      Their children, are following a more western diet, and are really getting fat.
                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_emperor_syndrome

                      One thing about official numbers, there are illegal aliens in China that are born Chinese. If your first kid is a daughter, or retarded you were allowed a second chance at a son. If you had a son, you got forced abortions and sterilization. So the people kept having secret kids that never got goverment id cards. Without a shenfenzhen you can't go to school, or be a real citizen.
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                      • Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                        • Apollo wrote: View Post
                          ...The people funding these leadership campaigns aren't just doing it for a tax break...
                          Quite clearly. This is the largest problem with our current system of democracy. The big money people and their ability to buy MPs, and Prime Ministers. That and the lack of proportional representation. The governmental apparatus is so large now, I don't know how you back it down. And everytime there is another emergency, it turns into another reason to assume, use and entrench greater powers.

                          Wish I could get back to focusing on my favourite sports team and on my pickup game and oldtimers game every week.

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                          • Article in today's NY Times titled W.H.O. says care homes could account for half of virus deaths in Europe.

                            The picture emerging from long-term care facilitates in Europe in recent weeks has been “deeply concerning,” Hans Henri P. Kluge, the W.H.O.’s regional director for Europe, said in a news briefing.

                            “According to estimates from countries in the European Region, up to half of those who have died from Covid-19 were resident in long-term care facilities,” he said. “This is an unimaginable human tragedy.”
                            Wait till Hans hears about the situation in Canada's LTC's

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                            • Zak24gege wrote: View Post
                              Article in today's NY Times titled W.H.O. says care homes could account for half of virus deaths in Europe.



                              Wait till Hans hears about the situation in Canada's LTC's
                              WHO very much on the ball as usual.


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                              • https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...=mmx&PC=EMMX20

                                China has rejected calls for an independent international investigation into the origin of the coronavirus.
                                A top diplomat in the UK, Chen Wen told the BBC the demands were politically motivated and would divert China's attention from fighting the pandemic.

                                Information about the origin of Covid-19 and how it initially spread could help countries tackle the disease.



                                This is so they can just say any lawsuits are frivolous. Ccp law is world law, and see jing. Ping thought is world thought.

                                One thing is their ministry of truth knows that the ccp can never be wrong so when they say manufactured by the American army because they are jealous of china's rise, and a coordinated attack by hostile foreign forces, you know you are getting the facts.

                                This is a country that signed the international treaties on water rights, and now ignores them because historically everything is ancient China.

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