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  • Joey wrote: View Post
    So frigging cool. My only thing with tracking Radio Waves, is would an advanced extra-terrestrial civilization really be using Radio Waves to communicate ... I mean we have reduced the amount of Radio Waves we emit drastically over the last couple decades, and expect that to continue .. would any sufficiently advanced civilization really use something so relatively primitive?

    Conversely, I would expect that they've probably moved on the "mp3's" while we are still on "vinyl records", so I guess if their intent was to communicate, they'd have to dig out the pile of old records? Hence "Radio Waves"?

    I can't wait for the future. Lol

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    • Maury wrote: View Post
      Haven’t read the article but I’m assuming the signal was sent out a REALLY long time ago, so for all we know what ever sent it out could have been gone by now for a couple billion years or it has advanced so far that we couldn’t even comprehend it.
      That's a good point - I mean, radio waves do travel at the speed of light, but space is an awfully big place (depending on who you talk to, ~50 Billion Light years in Diameter).

      Discussions like this, always come back to the Fermi Paradox (if Space is so god damned big, where is all of the life?)
      This is an amazing breakdown of the Fermi Paradox, and I love this way of looking at our circumstances (read the article, as it gives a much better breakdown), but essentially, there are 3 possible scenarios:

      We're Rare:


      We're First:


      We're Fucked:



      This gives me hope though that we'll find something (or they'll find us):



      Can you imagine Earth with a Billion Extra Years of Development??
      Last edited by Joey; Thu Aug 2nd, 2018, 11:44 AM.

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        • rocwell wrote: View Post

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          • Interesting... more terrestrial than usual in this thread ... but spacey

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            • Joey wrote: View Post
              That's a good point - I mean, radio waves do travel at the speed of light, but space is an awfully big place (depending on who you talk to, ~50 Billion Light years in Diameter).

              Discussions like this, always come back to the Fermi Paradox (if Space is so god damned big, where is all of the life?)
              This is an amazing breakdown of the Fermi Paradox, and I love this way of looking at our circumstances (read the article, as it gives a much better breakdown), but essentially, there are 3 possible scenarios:

              We're Rare:


              We're First:


              We're Fucked:



              This gives me hope though that we'll find something (or they'll find us):



              Can you imagine Earth with a Billion Extra Years of Development??
              Really doesn't seem like much of a paradox when you factor in how incredibly hard, if not impossible, interstellar travel is. The answer is because everyone is stuck at home.

              EDIT - found this after https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...not-a-paradox/
              Last edited by SkywalkerAC; Tue Sep 25th, 2018, 11:54 AM.

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              • SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
                Really doesn't seem like much of a paradox when you factor in how incredibly hard, if not impossible, interstellar travel is. The answer is because everyone is stuck at home.
                My answer to this has always been the same: the technology required to communicate over long distances (never mind travel over them) is always rapidly followed by the technology required to wipe out one's own species/planet. So yes, there is/was/will be other intelligent life. The problem is the time span from the point where they develop the ability to communicate to the point where they don't exist anymore is infinitesimal on the span of the universe, so probabilistically speaking no two intelligent species will ever overlap to be able to interact with each other.
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                • SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
                  Really doesn't seem like much of a paradox when you factor in how incredibly hard, if not impossible, interstellar travel is. The answer is because everyone is stuck at home.

                  EDIT - found this after https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...not-a-paradox/
                  DanH wrote: View Post
                  My answer to this has always been the same: the technology required to communicate over long distances (never mind travel over them) is always rapidly followed by the technology required to wipe out one's own species/planet. So yes, there is/was/will be other intelligent life. The problem is the time span from the point where they develop the ability to communicate to the point where they don't exist anymore is infinitesimal on the span of the universe, so probabilistically speaking no two intelligent species will ever overlap to be able to interact with each other.
                  Sure...plus the vastness of space.

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                  • SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
                    Sure...plus the vastness of space.
                    I think the vastness of time is the more definitive factor, but there is that too.
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                    • The aliens have arrived! (Ok, ok, it's that guy... Elon Musk. lol ).

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                      • rocwell wrote: View Post
                        The aliens have arrived! (Ok, ok, it's that guy... Elon Musk. lol ).

                        was it over Reno?
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                        • Radio waves travel at the speed of light - it literally doesn't get any better than that!

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                          • Hello!

                            Mysterious interstellar asteroid 'Oumuamua could be a giant solar sail 'sent from another civilization to look for signs of life,' claim astronomers

                            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ilization.html

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                            • rocwell wrote: View Post
                              Hello!

                              Mysterious interstellar asteroid 'Oumuamua could be a giant solar sail 'sent from another civilization to look for signs of life,' claim astronomers

                              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ilization.html
                              Cigar shaped eh



                              I am firmly in the camp of kill them before they take our shit. If it isn't infinite there isn't enough for everyone.

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                              • rocwell wrote: View Post
                                Hello!

                                Mysterious interstellar asteroid 'Oumuamua could be a giant solar sail 'sent from another civilization to look for signs of life,' claim astronomers

                                https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ilization.html
                                Eh... DailyMail, only these folks and I fucking love science end up publishing these articles
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