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    Zach Lowe's guest on the newest Lowe Post podcast, Kevin Arnovitz, suggested the possibility of Toronto letting Lowry walk then offering the maximum contract offer to Bledsoe. Apparently this works salary wise if we buy out Salmons, i haven't checked though. What do you think?

    I think, provided Phoenix doesn't match, we would be getting a roughly equivalent defender and maybe a slightly less polished offensive facilitator. But Bledsoe would be much younger, much more athletic, and still has a decent shooting stroke (35% from 3 last year i think). It is intriguing to think of a Derozan and Bledsoe back court, with Ross hopefully progressing, JV improving, and an incoming draft pick.

  • #2
    I was thinking about his knee but then remembered Lowry tore acl as well.

    Certainly something to consider.

    Risk of course is Phoenix does match and Lowry is bitter.

    I'd say pass.

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    • #3
      Extremely risky because if Phoenix matches we lose both players.

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      • #4
        I would have guessed Bled is an $11 mil per player at the highest. I hate the idea of overpaying that much for anyone, especially with all of the other risks involved.
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        • #5
          After all the love bon mots thrown at Lowry by MU I doubt he would pull that move...unless of course KL starts demanding beyond the certain parameters that have probably already been discussed. Imo....the max would be a overpay for Bledsoe.

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          • #6
            We need Klow!

            On a good deal.
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            • #7
              Is Bledsoe really a max guy? Haven't seen him play enough this year.

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              • #8
                bryan colangelo wrote: View Post
                Is Bledsoe really a max guy? Haven't seen him play enough this year.
                He's not a max guy but to pry him from Phoenix, it'll need to be at least near max.

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                • #9
                  I suspect this could be a decent plan C or something. If Lowry prices himself out of our range, say the Lakers offer the max, maybe it's worth letting him walk and taking a home run swing elsewhere. And if sign and trading Lowry falls through, you're stuck with trying to capitalize on that cap space.
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                  • #10
                    The last thing we should do if Lowry walks is to panic and offer a max to a non-max player. I'd rather Raps take a step back next year, make Vasquez their stater and wait until 2015 when we can be major players in the free agent market.

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                    • #11
                      There's no point in jeopardizing the future of the team by being obsessed with staying good. Good is the enemy of great. Play smart and hopefully we get Lowry...if not, take a reasonable swing for Bledsoe. If that doesn't work then you work with what we have. I trust MU is going to make the best decisions based on what is out there and what is possible.

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                      • #12
                        bryan colangelo wrote: View Post
                        Is Bledsoe really a max guy? Haven't seen him play enough this year.
                        Well i just looked up some stats to compare him to another point guard who was drafted same year and got a max extension, John Wall.

                        2013-2014 (4th season for both players) Per36 numbers
                        Player FG% 3P% FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS
                        Bledsoe 0.477 0.357 0.772 5.1 6.0 1.8 0.4 3.6 19.4
                        Wall 0.433 0.351 0.805 4.0 8.7 1.8 0.5 3.6 19.1
                        It seems as though in today's market and if he stays healthy, yes, he will be getting max or very close to max salary.
                        Last edited by sportsfan929; Sun May 25, 2014, 11:43 AM.

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                        • #13
                          What is Bledsoe's max? If Lowry walks I'd be more than happy if MU went after Bledsoe, but I have no interest in over-paying him. IS he a $15-16mil + per year player? I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that, but honestly, a JV/TR/DD/EB core looks just as good as one with Lowry IMO. I like both guys alot, so it's really a coin flip or matter of price for me.

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                          • #14
                            $11m a year for Lowry versus making a max offer to Bledsoe that Phoenix can match (and have stated publicly, more than once, that they will match if they have to?). Yeah, let's think about this one real hard before saying that the Bledsoe plan is a terrible idea.

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                            • #15
                              JawsGT wrote: View Post
                              What is Bledsoe's max? If Lowry walks I'd be more than happy if MU went after Bledsoe, but I have no interest in over-paying him. IS he a $15-16mil + per year player? I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that, but honestly, a JV/TR/DD/EB core looks just as good as one with Lowry IMO. I like both guys alot, so it's really a coin flip or matter of price for me.
                              Bledsoe's max is 25% of the salary cap. 2014-15 cap is projected to be $63.2M, so the max for Bledsoe (from any team besides Phoenix) would be a 4 year deal starting at $15.8M.

                              Max raises are 4.5% of the initial base salary (so $711K). So we're looking at a deal like this for Bledsoe:

                              Year 1: $15.80M
                              Year 2: $16.51M
                              Year 3: $17.22M
                              Year 4: $17.93M
                              Total: $67.46 (so 20M more than Lowry over 4 years)

                              That number is a little high, because the NBA uses a different calculation to determine max salaries based on a lower BRI.

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