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It wasn't just a Casey switch but a DeMar (and to a lesser extent Lowry) switch too. I think it took the embarrassing losses in the playoffs to admit that their style was wrong. And that was the proof they needed, not the stuff that the analytic community was trying to preach to them. -
People who reach that level of success, especially from a tough background like DeMar, definitely have to have this element of blocking out the noise and doubters, believing in yourself and pushing through the limited expectations everyone else has for you. From that perspective, I kind of get a young guy in his 20's reacting to circumstances the way DD did for several seasons. I always thought Casey's comments on the system and the critics were kind of weird, but I think he was just simplifying things - the coach has to believe 100% in what the team is doing if it has a chance to work, he wasn't going to start speculating mid-season that maybe they were going about things wrong. It still would have been nice if they shifted gears a year or two ago.planetmars wrote: View Post
Don't get me started on guys like Leo Rautins and Doug Smith tho, huge yes men on whatever the coaching staff is doing who'd make snide comments about ignorant fan opinions all the time. As a commentator and a journalist, those guys have a chance to actually question things and speculate but they're just rah rah men."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi LeonardComment
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Jack was the only guy I remember questioning coaching decisions. Not big time, because "Work" but he did raise questions.S.R. wrote: View PostComment
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San Antonio would be the obvious example of a coaching staff and management team that has been willing to completely change an approach year over year if their results aren't what they want them to be.Scraptor wrote: View Post
Personally, I was just as happy to watch a terrific Raptors team win a tonne of games - a team that would have made two finals if Lebron James played out west. So, I am happy watching the best Raps team ever, but I appreciate all the teams before as well.Comment
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Casey coached the system his boss wanted had a lot of success. His boss said ok lets try something new. Casey is successful with that system as well.
Point is what ever system you give Casey he will win with. He is that good of a coach. Which is what I've been debating for his whole tenure.
People making too much about this style change. Like we weren't successful before. This season could easily end just like 2016. Does that mean we need change styles again? Talent is the only thing that will make the real difference. Luckily this year we have way better role players. No more "one leg" Carroll and "starter material" 2pat to consistently leave Deebo/Lowry hanging.
Sent from my LG-H831 using TapatalkLast edited by Chr1s1anL; Fri Mar 9, 2018, 12:12 AM.@Chr1st1anLComment
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I appreciated those teams but there were very clear reasons why so many were frustrated for four years. You could see that we had potential that was being squandered by bad basketball choices.slaw wrote: View Post
It was like that friend everyone has who's got so much potential but is just stuck in a rut. You want so badly for them to snap out of it but sometimes it takes a hard look in the mirror. Now that friend has changed his ways and is kicking ass all over the place.Comment
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What're you talking about? I don't call struggling to beat every team in every round successful. 2016 playoffs seemed like we squeaked through on sheer talent alone, 2017 a bit of the same. Right now the style of play is massively different. The entire revamp of the culture was much needed, Casey was coaching this team into mediocrity. I doubted him but he came through and MU might have changed the whole idea of just firing a coach if the team isn't doing well.Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
I disagree, style of play and chemistry matter a lot which is two things this team has locked down. Warriors, Spurs, Raptors, and Celtics are the only teams that have talent and play a team oriented game which is what wins championships. A well rounded team with great chemistry and style of play can contend with any stacked roster full of stars. Spurs have proven this time and time again. And we're not even talking about development, MU in just a few years turned around the whole development process for the raptors. I'd say we're near San Antonio level with our development and that's incredible.Comment
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"Casey coached the system his boss wanted" is something I've never read or heard from any reliable source.. I know Weltman defended Casey's offensive system, but I've never seen anywhere that Casey was told or even asked to use that system.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.Comment
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With Toronto at least, Casey's been inclined to iso ball. Remember way back to the Lowry/Calderon controversy - Lowry begins season as starting PG, team plays badly. He goes down with an injury, Calderon steps in, team plays better. Colangelo then says, publicly, 'we need to pass the ball more and play the way we play when Jose's on the floor'. So again, we have the GM stepping in and saying 'I don't like how we're playing, change it.'3inthekeon wrote: View Post"Stop eating your sushi."
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