Everything Dwane Casey

[Shaolin Fantastic]

The Raptors drafted T-Mac and Vince Carter. Why they left? You need (US) media attention to keep superstars.

What an absolute crock of bs.

They left because the team was fucking poorly managed.

We have great management right now. We need to get that kind of talent again and let Masai build around it. That is how we will win. Then guess what, that winning will bring the attention you want. Nobody gave a fuck about Philly until this year where Simmons and Embiid blew up and they won 50 games.

[Nilanka]

Ok, what's wrong with some of you guys?

Point still stands. We need to stop worrying about how much media coverage we're getting or if the Americans love us and start worrying about how to actually get superstars on this roster.

We asked for media attention this year, and we got in in spades over the past 7 days....for all the wrong reasons.

Be careful what you wish for, right?

[Nilanka]

The game was still close at the time too lol

Bebe time.

I literally spent the entire rest of the first half laughing at the decision. I couldn't stop myself.

The laughing stopped the moment Casey refused to own that decision, and instead deflected to the "coaching staff" as a whole.

[Nilanka]

The Raptors drafted T-Mac and Vince Carter. Why they left? You need (US) media attention to keep superstars.

Check out the new Netflix documentary on Carter. The both tell us why they left.

Hint: TMac didn't want to be in Carter's shadow, and also wanted to be closer to home. Carter never want to leave (he was traded).

[rocwell]

Dwane Casey will win the Coaches Association's 2nd annual NBA Coach of the Year award, per @TheSteinLine. NBA's official award will be announced in June. Timing of this leak is probably not a coincidence. His peers have his back, as they should.

— Josh Lewenberg (@JLew1050) May 9, 2018

[DanH]

What if it would have worked like in the Washington series? Everybody celebrated this move - from top to the bottom. So I don't blame the coaches to try it, when everything else also didn't work.

Whoa, whoa. Let's get something clear (which I tried to explain after Washington game 1). The Bebe move worked because he was plugged in a) in Poeltl's place, who was struggling, b) with the Lowry bench, which is a look he has always had success in, and c) only rode out the Q because he was having a great night (which is rare), and even then, once he was in starter-type lineups, barely broke even in that game outside the bench minutes - his minutes with the bench were intended to bridge to getting to a JV or Ibaka at C lineup, but the bench went on a crazy run so he got to ride it out. Bebe is VERY situation dependent (and easily scoutable). Which is why when he was plugged into games 2 and 3 in the Washington series but not in Lowry-bench units, it was a complete disaster.

Never mind the actual matchups. You can't have a guy who won't try to score as the roll man against the Cavs' trapping defence, because unlike the Wizards, the Cavs have LeBron (the guy who knows the tendencies of every role player in the league) sitting and waiting to pounce into passing lanes, which trap Bebe fell into like, three straight trips or some such nonsense? You also can't put Bebe out to defend a stretch big - for all his rim protection, he collapses really easy (easier than JV does) and is dumb enough to jump out at jump shooters, which of course he did with Love, fouling him on a jumper.

It's not as simple as "well, Bebe worked once, so this is definitely a good move." It was a horrendous move when considering the context of the substitution. Even worse that they had JV sitting on the bench, having already gotten a breather with the pretty poor Ibaka at C minutes.

[DanH]

I'm sure Casey has asked himself the same question after the game.
Why? It was a desperate move to change to the positive. They played so many different lineups and nothing really worked. So they tried it.

I think they simply should have played with the hockey lineups. Starters & bench mob.

This makes sense except there were lots of things that worked. Oddly enough, the same things that worked all year long. And which were abandoned after one bad two minute stretch in the 3rd Q of game 2.

[Nilanka]

Whoa, whoa. Let's get something clear (which I tried to explain after Washington game 1). The Bebe move worked because he was plugged in a) in Poeltl's place, who was struggling, b) with the Lowry bench, which is a look he has always had success in, and c) only rode out the Q because he was having a great night (which is rare), and even then, once he was in starter-type lineups, barely broke even in that game outside the bench minutes - his minutes with the bench were intended to bridge to getting to a JV or Ibaka at C lineup, but the bench went on a crazy run so he got to ride it out. Bebe is VERY situation dependent (and easily scoutable). Which is why when he was plugged into games 2 and 3 in the Washington series but not in Lowry-bench units, it was a complete disaster.

Never mind the actual matchups. You can't have a guy who won't try to score as the roll man against the Cavs' trapping defence, because unlike the Wizards, the Cavs have LeBron (the guy who knows the tendencies of every role player in the league) sitting and waiting to pounce into passing lanes, which trap Bebe fell into like, three straight trips or some such nonsense? You also can't put Bebe out to defend a stretch big - for all his rim protection, he collapses really easy (easier than JV does) and is dumb enough to jump out at jump shooters, which of course he did with Love, fouling him on a jumper.

It's not as simple as "well, Bebe worked once, so this is definitely a good move." It was a horrendous move when considering the context of the substitution. Even worse that they had JV sitting on the bench, having already gotten a breather with the pretty poor Ibaka at C minutes.

The problem is that Casey's logic is much shallower than what you outlined here. Instead of paying attention to the minute details/context of a very specific scenario, we're told "we needed passing", lol.

Poor in-game tactician CONFIRMED!

[slaw]

Dwane Casey will win the Coaches Association's 2nd annual NBA Coach of the Year award, per @TheSteinLine. NBA's official award will be announced in June. Timing of this leak is probably not a coincidence. His peers have his back, as they should.

— Josh Lewenberg (@JLew1050) May 9, 2018

So, guessing that there's more to the Casey being gone rumours than just some media guys speculating. Coaches must be hearing rumblings....

[Nilanka]

"Tasked with trying to find ways to match up with Cleveland’s small-ball lineups without giving away the store, Casey never turned to his most versatile defensive forward pairing — rookie OG Anunoby and second-year man Siakam, who saw one total minute of shared floor time in the four-game sweep."

https://sports.yahoo.com/raptors-rep...205307188.html

[A.I]

"Tasked with trying to find ways to match up with Cleveland’s small-ball lineups without giving away the store, Casey never turned to his most versatile defensive forward pairing — rookie OG Anunoby and second-year man Siakam, who saw one total minute of shared floor time in the four-game sweep."

https://sports.yahoo.com/raptors-rep...205307188.html

The 2 players who were tasked to defend Lebron, you’d think they would defend well together. Its not rocket science.

[Other Scott]

So, guessing that there's more to the Casey being gone rumours than just some media guys speculating. Coaches must be hearing rumblings....

Look if Dwane Casey gets fired after winning Coach of the Year mostly due to losing to Lebron, it really is a blow across the back to other coaches jobs. If Casey can get fired, what are other coaches supposed to do to keep theirs short of being Pop/Stevens.

It's like the requirement for coaches job security in the NBA is to be a top 5 coach on earth. No player or referee is held to that kind of standard.

(Don't be an NBA Coach, kids.)

[Truth Teller]

The Raptors drafted T-Mac and Vince Carter. Why they left? You need (US) media attention to keep superstars.

Seems like you're making fake news... VC for a fact never wanted to leave but the organization betrayed him and was never open towards him.

[Truth Teller]

Look if Dwane Casey gets fired after winning Coach of the Year mostly due to losing to Lebron, it really is a blow across the back to other coaches jobs. If Casey can get fired, what are other coaches supposed to do to keep theirs short of being Pop/Stevens.

It's like the requirement for coaches job security in the NBA is to be a top 5 coach on earth. No player or referee is held to that kind of standard.

(Don't be an NBA Coach, kids.)

COTYs get fired pretty quickly. I'm sure they'll be fine with their large paycheques.

[S.R.]

Look if Dwane Casey gets fired after winning Coach of the Year mostly due to losing to Lebron, it really is a blow across the back to other coaches jobs. If Casey can get fired, what are other coaches supposed to do to keep theirs short of being Pop/Stevens.

It's like the requirement for coaches job security in the NBA is to be a top 5 coach on earth. No player or referee is held to that kind of standard.

(Don't be an NBA Coach, kids.)

Dwane Casey is top 4 in the NBA for tenure, only Pop, Carlisle, and Spo have had their jobs longer. They've all won championships, Casey's been past the 2nd round once.