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    We're not gonna take it! No! We ain't gonna take it! We're not gonna take it, anymoooore!

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    Lawrence Solomon: If Alberta turns separatist, the Rest of Canada is in big trouble
    Canadians don’t value our fossil fuel economy, which explains why so many are OK to trash pipelines and see Alberta tank. Only 19 per cent think it more important to pursue oil and gas development than to go green and regulate oil, according to EKOS polling. That 19 per cent figure shrinks to eight per cent for Canadians who consider themselves Liberals, six per cent for NDPers and two per cent for those who vote Green, meaning that politicians of most stripes have no interest in alienating their supporters to help Alberta’s energy economy recover.

    Those figures also explain why Alberta’s sense of alienation is on the rise. According to Ipsos, fully 62 per cent believe Alberta “does not get its fair share from Confederation” (up from 45 per cent two decades ago), 46 per cent feel more attached to their province than to their country (up from 39 per cent) and 34 per cent “feel less committed to Canada than I did a few years ago” (up from 22 per cent). Just 18 per cent of Albertans believe “the views of western Canadians are adequately represented in Ottawa.”

    ‘I’m afraid for Canada’: Energy CEOs losing patience with country’s indifference to oilpatch’s plight
    Canada’s Catalonia? Careful Ottawa, western alienation is beginning to rear its head again
    ‘Heavy-handed’ intervention will not alleviate Alberta’s pain in long term
    One-quarter of Albertans now believe Alberta “would be better off if it separated from Canada,” a number that may well rise if the provincial economy founders, and would certainly rise if Albertans realized that they need Canada a lot less than Canada needs them. Without Alberta’s wealth and foreign-exchange earnings, the living standard of Canadians outside Alberta would drop and the Canadian dollar would plummet, likely leading to inflation as the cost of imports rose. Albertans, in contrast, would see their affluence rise and, because oil sales are denominated in U.S. dollars, Alberta would be largely insulated from the inflation to its east and west.
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    “When my information changes, I alter my conclusions. What do you do, sir?” J.M. Keynes

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    He doesn't realize he's Individual-1 ...

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    We're not gonna take it! No! We ain't gonna take it! We're not gonna take it, anymoooore!

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    Lawrence Solomon: If Alberta turns separatist, the Rest of Canada is in big trouble
    Alberta Independence has been in discussion since the 1930's ... why haven't they even voted on it once if you'd be so much better off?

    Funny that the National Post actually answered that too only a few months ago ...

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    Buzzfeednews is killing it



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    No Russians, No Russians. Russians under every bed!

    How silly of everyone discussing such nonsense.
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    No Russians, No Russians. Russians under every bed!

    How silly of everyone discussing such nonsense.

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    We're not gonna take it! No! We ain't gonna take it! We're not gonna take it, anymoooore!

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    Lawrence Solomon: If Alberta turns separatist, the Rest of Canada is in big trouble
    There is something called the Clarity Act. Turning separatist is not separating or seceding from Canada. While in theory possible a very difficult proposition ... as Quebec found out.
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    So to the folks who follow ‘murican politics more closely than I do...

    Just who are the Democrats going to put forward to challenge the incumbent?

    The guy from Texas Beto
    The almost 80 year old Joe Biden..
    Are there any women candidates who might be a good choice?

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    So to the folks who follow ‘murican politics more closely than I do...

    Just who are the Democrats going to put forward to challenge the incumbent?

    The guy from Texas Beto
    The almost 80 year old Joe Biden..
    Are there any women candidates who might be a good choice?
    Much too early imo... a lot of jockeying has started and of course the buffoonery in the current WH has to play out. My own leanings are towards O'Rourke and Kamala Harris (a senator who was AG of California as bkgrnd). Biden is a fossil and should just lay down now.
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    It’s going to be quite a large class of candidates by all accounts. Will be interesting to see who rises to the top.

    With Bernie and his age, I think Trump has lowered the bar for the role so much that anything goes. When you’ve got a bloated cartoon criminal with zero ability to legislate or perform in softball presidential duties, the octogenarian with most starts looking like a breath of fresh air.

    Pair him with a rising star like Beto and I bet most people be like “well, at least we’re insured.”

    The challenge will be someone who can stick to their message and talk policy without being swallowed by Trump’s bloat, while at the same time being tough on Trump - showing to the world that this will not stand. That’s no easy task, maybe Beto is up to it, but I like Bernie vs Trump the most at this early stage purely because of what I imagine Bernie laying down in those debate stages matched against a desperate, defensive Donald.

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    Further to DOJ revelations yesterday, Ex Secty. of State Rex Tillerson coincidentally (or possibly not) had this to say about Don the Con...
    “So often,” Rex Tillerson said in a talk Thursday, “the president would say, ‘Here’s what I want you to do, and here’s how I want you to do it.’ And I would have to say to him, ‘Mr. President, I understand what you want to do. But you can’t do it that way. It violates the law.’ ”

    (Remember, Tillerson was CEO of one of the iconic and global US businesses, EXXON... )

    To this, Trump responded with a well-reasoned legal defense: Tillerson “was dumb as a rock” and “lazy as hell.”
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    Further to DOJ revelations yesterday, Ex Secty. of State Rex Tillerson coincidentally (or possibly not) had this to say about Don the Con...
    Rex is dumb as a rock? Maybe, we don't know for sure...But his history at Exxon is very interesting. He worked his way from the bottom all the way to the top. That's very impressive.

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    Rex is dumb as a rock? Maybe, we don't know for sure...But his history at Exxon is very interesting. He worked his way from the bottom all the way to the top. That's very impressive.
    Let's put it this way... Trump picked him to be his SofS ... so, what does that make DT? It is just very amusing to see that all of the GOP remain quite mute at his blatherings. Re Tillerson, as you know. when one ascends to such a prominent position in such a company as EXXON it is not an accident. He wasn't picked by any one individual (like DT does) but thru a careful gleaning and process including a board of dirs.

    To be honest I thought when he was first hired it was because he (RT) was in thick with Putin. Wouldn't be surprised if one of those "illegal" things he was asked to do was on the Russian file.
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    Quote Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    So to the folks who follow ‘murican politics more closely than I do...

    Just who are the Democrats going to put forward to challenge the incumbent?

    The guy from Texas Beto
    The almost 80 year old Joe Biden..
    Are there any women candidates who might be a good choice?
    What do you mean, Hillary Clinton ...



    In all seriousness, I like Beto. Would prefer him over Biden or Bernie.

    Mostly, I'm just happy that creepy porn lawyer is out of the running.

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    What do you mean, Hillary Clinton ...



    In all seriousness, I like Beto. Would prefer him over Biden or Bernie.

    Mostly, I'm just happy that creepy porn lawyer is out of the running.




    I thought Hilary was a constitutional lawyer?

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    SNL last night (WH does their writing)...





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    There is no real and settled reason/law why charges cannot be brought immediately. Of course the current AG would have to approve it and WH will fight it to the SC. That said, Clinton lost in the SC in his fight against Paula Jones' civil suit claiming the same privilege of "sitting president". If an SC can force a president to comply in a civil suit certainly a criminal proceeding should be allowed. There is no constitutional impediment as I understand other than briefs by 2 previous AGs negative on the process.
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    So much for Trumponomics stimulating the Economy:
    The S&P 500 stock index is now down about 1.5% for 2018. If it ends the year there—or lower—it will be the worst annual performance for the S&P since markets crashed in 2008.
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