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    No no no! What the fuck. Did US-RU plan this? Russia will get baltic states or Montenegro and RU won't say anything about US plans in Iran. Hopefully I'm wrong. This is nuts.
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    No impact - as noted, it's a state with one party consent. Since the call was between Trump and Cohen and Cohen recorded It, one party (Cohen) would have presumed to have consented.

    Different story entirely if the conversation was between Trump and Trump Jr and Cohen recorded it - but that's not the case with this recording (there are reports of many other recordings)
    Ooh... I took my linked info "unless one party to the conversation consents" to mean that in a 2 party conversation 1 is doing the recording and the other must consent (in NY). I havent read the detail of the penal code but you are saying different?
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    Interesting tweet-thread about this NYT story.




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    Ooh... I took my linked info "unless one party to the conversation consents" to mean that in a 2 party conversation 1 is doing the recording and the other must consent (in NY). I havent read the detail of the penal code but you are saying different?
    There are a number of states in the US (NY being one of them) where only one party in a conversation has to consent to allow a conversation to be recorded / transcribed. There are other states in the US that require 2 party consent for conversations to be recorded / transcriptions to be made - which means that both sides of the conversation have to be aware that a recording / transcription is being made. One party consent obviously does not cover instances where a person is illegally wiretapped, bugged, or has their conversations monitored - since neither party in the conversation has consented.

    At a company I formerly worked at, we would have biweekly conference calls with head office in a state requiring 2 party consent. At the start of each conference call, the host would announce that the call was being recorded (the recording had started at that point), and would be posted on a company intranet site following the call.

    It's sort of like when you phone a call centre, and before you interact with an actual person, you hear "This call is being recorded for quality and training purposes" - if you then threaten an employee and are dragged into court, you can't complain that you didn't know you were being recorded.

    So Cohen isn't in jeopardy for recording calls, since he was one of the parties to the conversation. What will be interesting is the substance of the calls, as people on the other end of his phone calls may not have been aware that he was recording, and may have said some things that may be incriminating and/or exculpatory since they didn't think there would be a 'paper trail'.

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    I'm always a bit sceptical about Seth Abramson, and tend to take any conclusions, indictments he generates on his really long tweet threads with a large grain of salt.

    However, there was also this posted

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CarolLeon...63780616802306

    *IF* Trump/Cohen worked with the National Enquirer to bury news that was critical of Trump, and Trump was aware / instructed / directed actions by the National Enquirer it could create jeopardy for conspiracy to defraud the US - or.. collusion!

    Again, we're hearing about the tapes for the first time - but can't really judge if/until we know what was said on them.

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    Thanks to one tweet, we're officially fighting a currency war...


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    One of the first things I noticed as well when I saw the pictures. He looks completely defeated. Like a dog that just got shamed by its owner.
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    ... that is WAY too convenient ... total coincidence though I'm sure. Lol

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    “When my information changes, I alter my conclusions. What do you do, sir?” J.M. Keynes

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    That was horrifying until the kid stepped in ... geezus. I hope they just showed the absolute worst of the worst, and not the average. lol

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    That was horrifying until the kid stepped in ... geezus. I hope they just showed the absolute worst of the worst, and not the average. lol
    I actually hate these types of revelatory clips ...just meant to provide some comic disgust since the thought crossed my mind about why there are still so many giving kudos to the man in the news. It's in plain sight but then so are maps of the world... lol.
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