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    One of the few guys in the admin. who did not soil himself re Trump's Helsinki pratfall, DNI Dan Coats. He did an interview at the Security Conference in Aspen today and at the end ...there was breaking news... watch...






    Speculation: Trump was watching the interview which was not kind to him and so sent off the tweet re the invite!

    Coats is a Trump appointee to the post who is a true political appt. since he had no previous security estb. bkgrnd. He was a senator previously.
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    It's getting so obvious now


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    It's getting so obvious now

    LOL "We are not intimidated to ask these important questions". What a complete hack. The guy is a joke.

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    LOL "We are not intimidated to ask these important questions". What a complete hack. The guy is a joke.
    Funny how they don't mention small nation KIAs and WIAs from Afghanistan War. US is very lucky to have peaceful and loyal allies... Without Europe... Russia hates them, China wants to be a sole superpower, Middle East... Yeah, Mexico... Ish. Brazilians and South Americans are fake allies.
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    Putin claims "useful agreements" reached at the summit.

    Hullo? Anyone know the details?

    Hope you all can tell your children about these very strange times.

    The EU leaders & Japan, Australia and Canada must be in shock. They have gone mute. Lol. What about May and her "special relationship"? Time to maintain a diplomatic decorum has ended I think. Speak up. Shame him.
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    The EU leaders & Japan, Australia and Canada must be in shock. They have gone mute. Lol. What about May and her "special relationship"? Time to maintain a diplomatic decorum has ended I think. Speak up. Shame him.
    Should be noted that the 'Five Eyes' (FVEY) intelligence sharing program consists of the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the UK - the leaders you mention above are probably privy to any classified information surrounding any number of things surrounding Trump and his administration that has been gathered, but not yet revealed (for fear of burning sources and/or methods etc). So they're sitting in meetings with Trump listening to him blather on about Russia not meddling, and yet have seen the intelligence that demonstrates it etc.

    I'm guessing they know, at some point, that it a lot of it will be revealed, and so the approach might be to simply keep their head down and try to avoid as much of the fallout for their particular countries as possible, but stand up to the US, as appropriate (such as Canada retaliating on US tariffs)

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    Quote Ebonhawke wrote: View Post
    Should be noted that the 'Five Eyes' (FVEY) intelligence sharing program consists of the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the UK - the leaders you mention above are probably privy to any classified information surrounding any number of things surrounding Trump and his administration that has been gathered, but not yet revealed (for fear of burning sources and/or methods etc). So they're sitting in meetings with Trump listening to him blather on about Russia not meddling, and yet have seen the intelligence that demonstrates it etc.

    I'm guessing they know, at some point, that it a lot of it will be revealed, and so the approach might be to simply keep their head down and try to avoid as much of the fallout for their particular countries as possible, but stand up to the US, as appropriate (such as Canada retaliating on US tariffs)
    I agree with your post. I was trying to convey that a process of shaming the man (if that is possible at all) is undertaken. This might mitigate some of his actions which if nothing is getting quite bizarre. Even his own staff/admin are shocked (see DNI reaction) and there is a sense that the tipping point is here soon.

    The more powerful voices like Merkel, Macron, May should at least publicize their pushback.... for their own populations.... and a message of understanding to the many in the US who feel similarly. Of course they are going by the normal rules of not interfering in the politics of another sovereign country. But this has not stopped the words or actions of the current office holder who insults them often and openly And yes there is an economic dimension. However....
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    In May of 1939, the French socialist newspaper L’Œuvre articulated the essential logic of appeasement when it asserted that the Nazi’s territorial demands on the Polish Republic’s port on the Baltic Sea were not worth contesting. Its arguments were cowardice cloaked in false bravado and cheap nationalism, but it nevertheless put those who were inclined to confront Hitler on the defensive. A slight variation on the title of that article soon became the anti-war slogan adopted by pacifist and isolationist movements on both sides of the Atlantic: “Why die for Danzig?” The Second World War began four months later all the same. Tens of millions would die because the spine required to confront and contain the Nazi menace was in short supply.

    So why die for Montenegro? The goal of American strategy in Europe is that, through proactivity and deterrence, no one will. When we fail to communicate to aggressors that their actions will result in consequences that they cannot endure, we run the risk of inviting another terrible conflict. It is one of history’s great ironies that those who claim to be war’s greatest opponents have such a lamentably consistent track record of bringing it about.
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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    In May of 1939, the French socialist newspaper L’Œuvre articulated the essential logic of appeasement when it asserted that the Nazi’s territorial demands on the Polish Republic’s port on the Baltic Sea were not worth contesting. Its arguments were cowardice cloaked in false bravado and cheap nationalism, but it nevertheless put those who were inclined to confront Hitler on the defensive. A slight variation on the title of that article soon became the anti-war slogan adopted by pacifist and isolationist movements on both sides of the Atlantic: “Why die for Danzig?” The Second World War began four months later all the same. Tens of millions would die because the spine required to confront and contain the Nazi menace was in short supply.

    So why die for Montenegro? The goal of American strategy in Europe is that, through proactivity and deterrence, no one will. When we fail to communicate to aggressors that their actions will result in consequences that they cannot endure, we run the risk of inviting another terrible conflict. It is one of history’s great ironies that those who claim to be war’s greatest opponents have such a lamentably consistent track record of bringing it about.
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    Perfectly articulated. Was thinking about how I wanted to put it, but ya ... this is exactly it. Where's this from?

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