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#TheStarters found out live on their Twitter Show that @sergeibaka_7 was being traded to the @Raptors! Check out their reaction! pic.twitter.com/TcT3RQpa1f
— The Starters (@TheStarters) February 15, 2017
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BIG WORRY! Age of Serge Ibaka
Okay so I was just reading an article about the Serge Ibaka trade when they referred to his age being a subject of question...
Ibaka isn’t in his prime. His rebounding and especially his shot-blocking numbers have been declining for the past few years: He blocked 5.0 and 4.1 shots per 100 possessions in 2012-13 and 2013-14, respectively; that number the past three seasons has been 3.7, 2.9, and 2.6. He is listed at 27 years old, but people around the league have long speculated the Congolese big man is older than that.
So what is the deal here? How likely is it that Ibaka is older than he claims, and by how much? Does anyone know more about this whole age faking thing? I only ask because this compounds the worries I had when I remember hearing some commentators comment that he's out of his prime, etc., which sounds quite odd if he really is 27!?
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Does this really need it's own thread?
Since I'm a VET who's very nearly got a whopping twice as many posts as you, I'm gonna saaaaaaaay.... No. No, it doesn't.
I'd say, since it's SOMETHING about IBAKA, it miiiiight fall under the EVERYTHING IBAKA thread.
This thread title looks like a Trump tweet.
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This has been covered ad nauseum. The only reason people worry about age is it causes decline, so you can judge him on his numbers over the last few years. He's seen a decent uptick in most of his numbers this year, and we don't need that much from him besides being a great fit (which he is), so I'm not concerned.
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I think there's enough smoke to be concerned.
Defensive real plus/minus (positive is better)
Went from +3.23 four years ago to +3.51 to +0.86 to +0.52 now
Difference in FG% when guarded by Serge (negative is better)
Went from -3.2 four years go to -5.5 to -0.9 to +1.3 now
Although his defensive rebounding rate has bounced back a little this year, from 16.2% to 18.5%, that has dropped from 21.9% and 20.8% in his first two years. His block rate has trended in a straight line down from his third season to its current career low. WS/48 is well below his early seasons and is second lowest of his career.
Also someone posted these on reddit (/u/ca1294):
Note too this is a contract year, one in which you'd expect Ibaka's numbers to really shine as he plays for a payday.
None of this matters in the short term. It does matter over the long term, because Masai intends to re-sign him to a long-term deal. We just have to hope Masai uses his best judgment and knowledge of the situation to mitigate the risk of further decline as much as possible.
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GOLDBLUM wrote: View PostDoes this really need it's own thread?
Since I'm a VET who's very nearly got a whopping twice as many posts as you, I'm gonna saaaaaaaay.... No. No, it doesn't.
I'd say, since it's SOMETHING about IBAKA, it miiiiight fall under the EVERYTHING IBAKA thread.
This thread title looks like a Trump tweet.
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TRex wrote: View PostI relish negativity and disappointment. It is not healthy. Somebody buy me a pony.
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TRex wrote: View Post
1) McHale says that Ibaka fell in love with his jump shot and thinks he's a finesse player. Doesn't play D as hard as before, but Dwane Casey will fix that.
2) C-Webb says that the Raptors regular season offense is easy to stop and will flat-out not work in the playoffs.
All eyes on Casey now.
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