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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Exactly the type of player that Casey would insert into the starting lineup, for no apparent reason.
    Sure, but Ilyasova is a good all-around player. And we're going to need more shooting in the playoffs when opposing team's exploit Pascal's complete lack of a serviceable jump-shot. His energy won't be as big a factor in the playoffs as it is in the regular season. I'm okay with bringing in another veteran shooter, even if Casey gonna Case.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Until Jonas gets insured again.
    Even then, though, right? Would we play BeBe as part of the regular rotation even then, or would rotations be shrunk enough to have Poeltl/Ibaka take all the C minutes? BeBe might get some time if there is a) an injury AND b) foul trouble.

    That said, I'd be shocked if a team was willing to trade a pick for BeBe.

    I could however see Masai moving BeBe for some veteran help. For example, if MEM sells on Tyreke Evans, and they can't find someone willing to give up a pick for him, maybe a young RFA big like BeBe would be a decent get for them. Salaries match. And with them likely selling Gasol next summer, they could use some youth infused, even if BeBe is hitting FA - I doubt he'd be getting huge offers anywhere with his limited playing time in his career so far. And the downside isn't much for the Raps, with them unlikely to even submit a QO to BeBe this summer because of tax concerns.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Until Jonas gets insured again.
    We have redundancy with Ibaka and Poeltl already. Depth is fine in the regular season, but is it really critical in the playoffs?

    If he's not part of our future then I'd prefer to get some type of asset for him before its too late.

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    Good points about Ibaka/Yak carrying the load (in the event of a JV injury).

    In this scenario, maybe there's room for Ilyasova in the PF rotation, after all.

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    Who would we trade for Ilyasova though? If they are willing to pay the tax, it's easy (for example, Bebe for Ily works under the hard cap). If not, though (and I'm not sure I would for Ilyasova), it's a lot harder to make his 6M salary fit. He's a more likely target for the March waiver period, sign him to a minimum deal for the stretch run.

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    Barring injury, I don't see the point of making an incremental-type trade for the playoffs. The team's playing as well as it possibly can. The overall rotation's solid. And, super flexible - we can play basically any style we want. I suppose that a shooting big off the bench is the one thing we lack - but if we get one and we play them, we're taking minutes from Yak and Siakam, and there'd be a drop in the defence and energy, so you might be looking at a net loss there.
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    Quote JimiCliff wrote: View Post
    Barring injury, I don't see the point of making an incremental-type trade for the playoffs. The team's playing as well as it possibly can. The overall rotation's solid. And, super flexible - we can play basically any style we want. I suppose that a shooting big off the bench is the one thing we lack - but if we get one and we play them, we're taking minutes from Yak and Siakam, and there'd be a drop in the defence and energy, so you might be looking at a net loss there.
    Yep, we got an asset on the bench that just got a new contract and doing nothing so we got to get Norm going. Also we have to utilize Miles better, get the man more minutes where he isn't a defensive liability ( pairing him up with OG) and he can get more open and comfortable looks from the three instead of the chaos shots he is doing lately.

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    Lately I have been just fascinated with the way Delon been handling the rock. When he gets the ball at the top of the key it's hard to guess what exactly he is going to do with it.Either attack the basket with his jerky slow but quick pace which makes the defender dumbfounded how he got by him so easily. Pass it to the open man who is cutting to the basket or hit a 3. Wright hasn't played much in this league and he is just scratching the surface. He is often being compared to Livinston but I think Wright will be better then he was.

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    Quote Hotshot wrote: View Post
    Lately I have been just fascinated with the way Delon been handling the rock. When he gets the ball at the top of the key it's hard to guess what exactly he is going to do with it.Either attack the basket with his jerky slow but quick pace which make the defender dumbfounded how he got by him. Pass it to the open man who is cutting to the basket or hit a 3. Wright hasn't played much in this league and he is just scratching the surface. He is often being compared to Livinston but I think Wright will be better then he was.
    I watched Livingston a bit but I don't remember him being this fast. Wright is really fast with the ball, his man is nowhere near him by the time he's slicing through the key.
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    Is it crazy to think that Wright is a lot like Rondo was pre-ACL injury? Rondo got to play with HOFers and in an era when 3pt shooting isn't as important as it is now. But they play the game the same way.

    I am hopeful that Wright learns to shooter better than Rondo, but they are both quick, smart, and exceptionally good on defense. Delon is bigger (6'5 instead of 6'1) but has a shorter wingspan (6'6 instead of 6'9). But if we need a similarity I like this one more than Livingston.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    I watched Livingston a bit but I don't remember him being this fast. Wright is really fast with the ball, his man is nowhere near him by the time he's slicing through the key.
    I was the first to make the comparison, wright is quicker than Pre injury Livingston no doubt. Also a little bit better ball handler/1 on 1 attacker. Livingston was a better Passer.

    If he can become an above average shooter(flirt with 40% from deep) he could be a top 10 starting guard in the nba just as lowry did in his late 20s. What delon lacks of Lowry's bball iq he makes up for in size and length. Seems like he's got the similiar will to win and right attitude
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    Livingston has and had a great post up game though. I don't see Delon posting up smaller guards (which could be really nice) But he's pretty unique. I haven't seen a PG quite like him

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    I'm not sure who I'm more pissed off at: DeMarre Carroll, for sucking so bad when he was here or Dwane Casey, for not installing this year's offense much earlier. Probably wouldn't have cost us a 1st rounder to dump.

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    Quote MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    Livingston has and had a great post up game though. I don't see Delon posting up smaller guards (which could be really nice) But he's pretty unique. I haven't seen a PG quite like him
    Penny Hardaway? I dunno how you could be a "poor mans Penny" though, it doesn't get any poorer than penny's
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    I'm not sure who I'm more pissed off at: DeMarre Carroll, for sucking so bad when he was here or Dwane Casey, for not installing this year's offense much earlier. Probably wouldn't have cost us a 1st rounder to dump.
    Nah Carroll's issues are more health wise. He had a hot start to this season but he cooled off. He shot 27% in December from 3. And now he's injured again. He missed basically a whole year with injury with Raps and was never healthy. Noone was going to take that contract with that injury history.

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    Quote MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    Nah Carroll's issues are more health wise. He had a hot start to this season but he cooled off. He shot 27% in December from 3. And now he's injured again. He missed basically a whole year with injury with Raps and was never healthy. Noone was going to take that contract with that injury history.
    I dunno.... Carroll himself blamed the offense in the off-season, when he could have easily just said it was injuries and nobody would have said boo.

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    Everybody talks about injuries and shooting, Carroll's ball handling made me cringe. Everytime it was more than 2 dribbles and he'd build up a head of steam he looked like this

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    I dunno.... Carroll himself blamed the offense in the off-season, when he could have easily just said it was injuries and nobody would have said boo.
    Of course he blamed the system. He doesn't want to bring attention to the fact he's not healthy anymore. He's playing for his future right now. After this year I wouldn't be surprised if he's out of the league

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    DeMarre said this when he signed with us: "My number one focus is defense."


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