Everything 2018 Off Season

[octothorp]

Imagine if Kawhi just does sit out a significant portion of the season, the 'withholding services' clause kicks in, and Toronto uses that to extort a heavier price from LA than they were willing to give up to San Antonio.

[DanH]

https://www.raptorshq.com/2018/7/18/...-demar-derozan

Cap situation. Couldn't pack everything in there, so let me know if there are any questions.

[Primer]

Depending on how things go next July the trade might be:

DeRozan
Poeltl
1st Round Pick(top 20 protected)

for

Nothing

This next season will be one of the most eventful in Raptors history. It might be notorious though, we'll see.

You can't just pretend the 2018-19 season isn't going to happen. I absolutely loathe that kind of analysis.

If Kawhi and Green both don't resign the trade is:

DeRozan
Poeltl
1st Round Pick(top 20 protected)

for

NBA Finals Appearance
A Season with the best player in the East
A slim chance at taking down the Warriors (I think we'll have the best defense in the NBA)
More US media attention then the franchise has had every other year combined
Drastically improved reputation around the league as a real contender
A much better pitch to any free agents that we're a Finals team and they can make us a Championship team
Not taking back any dead salary for Derozan's contract speeding up a rebuild
Removing the option of paying Derozan $40M per year

[Apollo]

Depending on how things go next July the trade might be:

DeRozan
Poeltl
1st Round Pick(top 20 protected)

for

Nothing

This next season will be one of the most eventful in Raptors history. It might be notorious though, we'll see.

Thinking about this more. Just consider the low faith MU had in DeRozan in order to do this trade.

[KeonClark]

There are still some wrinkles to iron out, but the Raptors are signing Jordan Loyd to a 2-way contract, barring a snag in his buyout.

— Blake Murphy (@BlakeMurphyODC) July 18, 2018

lol

Murphy bomb

[MixxAOR]

True. Boston dealt his ass even tho he gave his soul to Boston and played his heart out when his sister passed away.

How about this? We give Lowry a legit chance to win ECF. We're taking care of our core players by giving them a chance. We're not trading away Derozan to suck ass and didn't trade him for a young player. We didn't trade him when he got injured. We traded him to a great city and great organization. FA should see that we're serious about contending, about winning it all.

[The Claw Reborn]

Depending on how things go next July the trade might be:

DeRozan
Poeltl
1st Round Pick(top 20 protected)

for

Nothing

This next season will be one of the most eventful in Raptors history. It might be notorious though, we'll see.

Leonard seems eccentric. We can't assume he thinks like most people. He hasn't shown that yet.

I have a feeling that you just dont like the trade, or Kawhi or losing Derozan

[Apollo]

You can't just pretend the 2018-19 season isn't going to happen. I absolutely loathe that kind of analysis.

If Kawhi and Green both don't resign the trade is:

DeRozan
Poeltl
1st Round Pick(top 20 protected)

for

NBA Finals Appearance
A Season with the best player in the East
A slim chance at taking down the Warriors (I think we'll have the best defense in the NBA)
More US media attention then the franchise has had every other year combined
Drastically improved reputation around the league as a real contender
A much better pitch to any free agents that we're a Finals team and they can make us a Championship team
Not taking back any dead salary for Derozan's contract speeding up a rebuild
Removing the option of paying Derozan $40M per year

Do you really think players are going to view it all like that? That's a fairy tale. There's a long standing bias here and it isn't helped by reports that DeRozan was flat out lied to. Doesn't matter if its true or not, it's still being hammered home in the media and most people aren't going to bother digging into it.

[Apollo]

I have a feeling that you just dont like the trade, or Kawhi or losing Derozan

If you read all my comments from today you might then think that what you just said was very uneducated.

[Hotshot]

There are still some wrinkles to iron out, but the Raptors are signing Jordan Loyd to a 2-way contract, barring a snag in his buyout.

— Blake Murphy (@BlakeMurphyODC) July 18, 2018

lol

What??!! What about Boucher or Alkins?!!! Come on Masai !!

[Blacklash2k4]

How about this? We give Lowry a legit chance to win ECF. We're taking care of our core players by giving them a chance. We're not trading away Derozan to suck ass and didn't trade him for a young player. We didn't trade him when he got injured. We traded him to a great city and great organization. FA should see that we're serious about contending, about winning it all.

Fair enough. I can understand that perspective. I just hope FA think of it that way rather than the Raptors back stabbing players.

[Apollo]

Do you really think players are going to view it all like that? That's a fairy tale. There's a long standing bias here and it isn't helped by reports that DeRozan was flat out lied to. Doesn't matter if its true or not, it's still being hammered home in the media and most people aren't going to bother digging into it.

Further, we focused too much on our Canadian view of this and not enough on what most Americans think. That's a pretty big miss seeing how we're usually talking about Americans and what they might do. What they might do is strongly influenced by what they think obviously.

[MixxAOR]

I'm ok with Raps not telling Derozan. You never know one of Derozan guys could've leak it. Raps didn't need that. And if deal didn't go through how do you mend it?

[Spark]

I'm expecting a few more trades going for the Raps these upcoming days to complete the roster. Any backup C's we should trade for? Don't think we are resigning Bebe. Montreal Big Man from summer league comes to mind.

With 5 PG in our roster...something has to happen lol

[Primer]

Do you really think players are going to view it all like that? That's a fairy tale. There's a long standing bias here and it isn't helped by reports that DeRozan was flat out lied to. Doesn't matter if its true or not, it's still being hammered home in the media and most people aren't going to bother digging into it.

I know for a fact players view teams that make the Finals more highly than teams that don't. Our pitch to Giannis when he's a free agent will be to insert him into Kawhi's spot and head right back to the Finals. Sticking with this roster for another year and finishing 3rd in the East just makes us less attractive and gives the impression we will never get over the hump so avoid Toronto.