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Mack North wrote: View Postlol please elaborate...
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Maury wrote: View PostHe only wins slow races. Only recently has he actually gone fast, and it’s not as good as everyone’s making him out to be. He’s definitely a talented 200 runner but I’m not sure he ever wins a gold in the 100. Also, his only fast times are wind aided. His fastest legal time is 9.91 which is fast but not top of the world fast. For some reason he ends up in these diamond league races that go really slow and he’s able to win in 9.95 to 10.10 which just baffles me considering how many times it’s happened. He ran a great 200 in rio, let’s see if he can build on it.
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Maury wrote: View PostHe only wins slow races. Only recently has he actually gone fast, and it’s not as good as everyone’s making him out to be. He’s definitely a talented 200 runner but I’m not sure he ever wins a gold in the 100. Also, his only fast times are wind aided. His fastest legal time is 9.91 which is fast but not top of the world fast. For some reason he ends up in these diamond league races that go really slow and he’s able to win in 9.95 to 10.10 which just baffles me considering how many times it’s happened. He ran a great 200 in rio, let’s see if he can build on it.
He may not be one of the best of all-time yet, but he's still very young and should only improve with added weight and experience. I wouldn't call him overrated though.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostThank you. Finally see box out stats. And sure enough the posters whose "eye tests" complained on numerous occasions that Poeltl never boxes out didn't have a clue.
Also, colour me absolutely shocked that DeRozan has by a decent margin the worst boxout rate of any regular player on the team (amd if you look at league wide rankings, is surrounded by a veritable ocean of 6 foot PGs).
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rocwell wrote: View PostI'm not worried. Just fix that damn arm swing. De Grasse knows about weakness in his leg or hip. He needs to fix that. Everything will be okay. Future is bright.
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DanH wrote: View PostI thought the argument was that people complained that Poeltl never grabs defensive boards, and the counter argument was that Poeltl boxes out really well to make up for it (which inevitably leads to him getting scrutinized for his boxing out). These stats show that Poeltl boxes out at like 85% the rate JV does. So, very well (JV is a high rebounding bar to compare to, and he’s no Bebe - LOL at 4.5 boxouts per 36), but not really the otherworldly boxout numbers (like, say Steven Adams) that would make up for the complete lack of individual defensive rebounding. Still, a positive sign that he ranks fairly well in this stat - as he develops his frame, he should be able to leverage this baseline into solid rebounding on the defensive end to go along with his top notch rim protection.
Also, colour me absolutely shocked that DeRozan has by a decent margin the worst boxout rate of any regular player on the team (amd if you look at league wide rankings, is surrounded by a veritable ocean of 6 foot PGs).If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostNo Dan, I've seen on multiple occasions in the game threads this season people actually post Poeltl never boxes out, with no arguments from other posters. JV is excellent, Poeltl is good. They also are among the leaders in contesting 2's and actually found Poeltl surprisingly high in the screen assist category. And these stats kind of confirm some of DD's DRPM rating - last in contesting 2's and ahead of only JV in contesting 3's.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostNo Dan, I've seen on multiple occasions in the game threads this season people actually post Poeltl never boxes out, with no arguments from other posters. JV is excellent, Poeltl is good. They also are among the leaders in contesting 2's and actually found Poeltl surprisingly high in the screen assist category. And these stats kind of confirm some of DD's DRPM rating - last in contesting 2's and ahead of only JV in contesting 3's.
That said, it's probably also an unfair amalgamation with the Ibaka at C lineups and Bebe at C lineups, neither of whom box out at all, with how much of the early season discussion was centered (get it?) on JV's play/replaceability.
Like I said though, his solid boxout numbers are a really good sign that eventually he can become a net positive on the defensive glass
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Maury wrote: View PostHe only wins slow races. Only recently has he actually gone fast, and it’s not as good as everyone’s making him out to be. He’s definitely a talented 200 runner but I’m not sure he ever wins a gold in the 100. Also, his only fast times are wind aided. His fastest legal time is 9.91 which is fast but not top of the world fast. For some reason he ends up in these diamond league races that go really slow and he’s able to win in 9.95 to 10.10 which just baffles me considering how many times it’s happened. He ran a great 200 in rio, let’s see if he can build on it.
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KHD wrote: View Posti am 100% not buying into any stat that claims Poeltl is good at boxing out lol.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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