In that newer article (Pelton?) in the OG thread, we're referred to as "contenders".
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DanH wrote: View PostLongest losing streak for the season is 2 games. We have a 6 game win streak and two 4 game win streaks (one active), plus three 2-game win streaks to outweigh the two 2-game losing streaks we've had. Team definitely knows how to bounce back from bad play."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostI have to disagree. First of all, can you find any of these "insightful articles"? Because most of the non-puff pieces that discussed our offence were more in the vein of "Raptors play an antiquated style, but somehow make it work". Granted the "will it keep working in the playoffs?" question was asked in a number of them. It was our defence that got trashed on numerous occasions,
Here are just a few articles. I don't see how any objective Raptor fan can look at these as not being insightful, especially in hindsight. I mean, I can't remember every single article and the older ones are hard to Google, but unless you take offense to the slightest indirect criticism (like Dwane Casey often does), then the team is getting their fair share of praise.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/i...n-nba-history/
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...s-master-plan/
https://www.sbnation.com/2014/11/13/...ern-conference
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golden wrote: View PostThe "Raptors play an antiquated style" and "will it keep working in the playoffs" was the correct narrative, but some fans covered their ears until Masai finally said 'uncle' and admitted it.
Here are just a few articles. I don't see how any objective Raptor fan can look at these as not being insightful, especially in hindsight. I mean, I can't remember every single article and the older ones are hard to Google, but unless you take offense to the slightest indirect criticism (like Dwane Casey often does), then the team is getting their fair share of praise.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/i...n-nba-history/
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...s-master-plan/
https://www.sbnation.com/2014/11/13/...ern-conferenceIf we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostThose articles you posted seemed to agree with my position. 2 kinda trashed our D. Only one really pointed out the warning signs of our ex-style of play, but also pointing out one reason we didn't pass much was because we weren't good passers (where did I hear that before?)
2016: Here's a great puff piece by NBA.com no less........ which was utterly wrong. But I'm sure a lot of Raptor fans ate it up.
Kyle Lowry, DeMar DeRozan and coach Dwane Casey have Toronto looking like a legitimate threat to Cleveland
http://www.nba.com/2016/news/feature...ll-star-break/
2017: And another
With New Pieces, Toronto Raptors Show Why They're East's Biggest Threat to Cavs
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...land-cavaliers
There's lots of this stuff out there.Last edited by golden; Thu Dec 21, 2017, 06:30 PM.
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Jclaw wrote: View Post
As I wrote in my updated NBA playoff projections on Wednesday, the Raptors are eminently competent and a true joy to watch. On closer inspection, they are even more than competent. They are freaking good. This is the best Raptors team ever, better than the 56-win version from 2015-16 and last season's similar edition.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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golden wrote: View PostBut there is nothing wrong with trashing our D if/when it is valid. Or trashing anything else. I guess some people only want to read 100% puff pieces, which is cool.
2016: Here's a great puff piece by NBA.com no less........ which was utterly wrong. But I'm sure a lot of Raptor fans ate it up.
Kyle Lowry, DeMar DeRozan and coach Dwane Casey have Toronto looking like a legitimate threat to Cleveland
http://www.nba.com/2016/news/feature...ll-star-break/
2017: And another
With New Pieces, Toronto Raptors Show Why They're East's Biggest Threat to Cavs
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...land-cavaliers
There's lots of this stuff out there.
The best articles are those by writers who both know basketball and are actually objective (Lowe, Pelton, etc), even if they say stuff we may not want to hear. Vantage Sports a few years ago was great.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostMaybe we're arguing and agreeing at the same time. Yeah, too many people prefered the puff pieces.
The best articles are those by writers who both know basketball and are actually objective (Lowe, Pelton, etc), even if they say stuff we may not want to hear. Vantage Sports a few years ago was great.
My original point was that complimentary articles about the franchise didn't just start this season and that fans don't pay as much attention to the nice words, but more so when they feel we've been slighted. Bill Simmons was especially adept at tweaking the Raptor fan base in particular, for troll clicks.
Articles, bloggers etc... have been steadily documenting the Raps rise since that unexpected turnaround season in 2014. Sure, some of those articles highlighted a few caveats, but a lot of those criticisms turned out to be totally justified.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostMaybe we're arguing and agreeing at the same time. Yeah, too many people prefered the puff pieces.
The best articles are those by writers who both know basketball and are actually objective (Lowe, Pelton, etc), even if they say stuff we may not want to hear. Vantage Sports a few years ago was great.
This article included the fundamental question about our core:
If the Raptors lose early in the playoffs again, they will face a simple question: Is this core good enough that improvement from the players on hand is all they need to approach Cleveland's level?
This one was more critical (and more after the fact):
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...s-nba-playoffs
If a team is winning, writers almost always focus on positives during the season, lest they risk backlash or lose access.
It's only during brief playoff post-mortems where they can show how the regular season formula failed, because those factors are supported by recent concrete evidence.
We on the forums have been saying the same things for years because we don't have those issues.
Anyway it's great to see some laudatory articles. Hope we can keep this momentum going strong all the way through into the playoffs.
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