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Game #69: Dalls Mavericks 115 - Toronto Raptors 122
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inthepaint wrote: View PostHere's something to talk about. A poll about the members here. The scenario: We maintain this peak performance and style, the best in franchise history. However, somehow, we get out on the second round. We do it though, by fighting hard, never being blown out, in 6-7 games, playing the right way as a team, with strong dedicated defence, high level of assists, strong team effort with no hero ball, well timed adjustments by the coach, in other words, the way we've been playing so far. But with enough small kinks that in aggregate, It just happens to go the other way for Eastern Conference team X which was really hot in late April.
Do you believe the reaction here is:
a) Deep disappointment because this was our year, but a nod to their effort, and to a season that brought the most entertaining and winning basketball to this franchise in decades, possibly ever.
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b) A monumental hissy-fit, and a disregard for all this season has brought, particularly the implementation of what the fan based has been asking for years (Team basketabll, more assists, less hero ball etc..). This core is lumped together as the same as nine years ago, around the time Derozan was drafted ( even though this team has nothing to do with the 2009 team), and that somehow becomes the center argument for tanking the best Raptors in history, in the off-season.
My reaction: likely "a". The overall boards reaction: probably about 50/50, but sadly with maybe more "b"'s than I would think. I know ultimately it's about the end result, but man, what happened to this team between last year and this year is huge. I want the ring, but I don't want to forget what they are doing to get there either.
We are known as playoff chokers. Fair or unfair, it's the teams current identity. Losing to Cleveland is understandable cause of Lebron (although still would suck). But we basically HAVE to win any series vs these mid card teams. The pressure is back kids, let's not fool ourselves. Just, win, baby.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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Find this pretty spectacular, over our last 17 games.
Top 2 in the league during that span in both Offense and Defense.
Only 0.1 points behind Houston's vaunted offense - 115.6 to 115.5, virtually identical.
On D, only shy of Utah who are way out in front of everybody 94.9 to our 101.9.
The @Raptors have won 17 of their last 18 games, including 10 straight.
— NBA.com/Stats (@nbastats) March 16, 2018
During that span, they lead the league in Net Rating (14.4) and are top two Offensive Rating (115.5) and Defensive Rating (101.1). https://t.co/skn8w3FMmz pic.twitter.com/JtqBumrK0V
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I think the rest vs rust argument has meat on the bone. Allow me to tuck in; I recall reading that the 6-7 mins a game Lowry and Demar have had shaved off their totals from the last few seasons had added up to something silly like 10-11 games worth of minutes off the body over the course of 82 games. When looked at in that context having a game off after a back to back or 3 days off in a row down the stretch hardly compares.
Add that to the fact in the last few seasons the rest seems to have added to the pressure and shooting woes they've had and the choice to rest seems like it's made in October not April.
Oh and any loss not to Lecrab is a disappointment. But still better a season than Vince's clanger vs Iverson.
A loss to Lecrab means I saw something heroic and I was entertained. Raps can't lose in my mind.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostI don't expect a ring, I would however be deeply disappointed if we lost in 6 or 7 in the 2nd round to Team X if Team X is Indiana, or even Washington, Philly etc.
We are known as playoff chokers. Fair or unfair, it's the teams current identity. Losing to Cleveland is understandable cause of Lebron (although still would suck). But we basically HAVE to win any series vs these mid card teams. The pressure is back kids, let's not fool ourselves. Just, win, baby.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostPretty well agree on this, except I won't find it understandable losing to the Cavs. Lebron will get his, he may play great, but we can and should beat his teammates.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostPretty well agree on this, except I won't find it understandable losing to the Cavs. Lebron will get his, he may play great, but we can and should beat his teammates.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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I was thinking about this, Lebron, and trying to articulate it for myself.
Many of us grew up watching Jordan, who NEVER lost in the finals. NEVER.
Just epitomized and solidified this game being a superstar's game.
And while Kobe was a spectacular player --
He doesn't really come into the conversation of the all-time best player, like Lebron does.
Lebron's had a tougher go than MJ, running into arguably the best team ever assembled in GSW.
But while Lebron's had to struggle in the Finals, he's always had the dominance of Jordan within the east.
Jordan went out on top. He hit his very last shot to win his sixth NBA title.
This, now, is such a different narrative.
At Jordan's height -- he was NEVER beaten. Not on the way out the door. Nothing.
We have a chance to change the narrative here, and frankly, sully James' legacy.
This is a tantalizing prospect.
Winning the trophy is Goal Number One. Undeniably.
It'd also feel pretty damn good to put up a road block on any 'greatest-of-all-time' talk.
Basketball Gods, May Ye Smile Upon Us.Last edited by GOLDBLUM; Fri Mar 16, 2018, 06:59 PM.
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rocwell wrote: View Post#NBA #Raptors - Kyle Lowry, Rest - is out Friday (3/16) vs. Dallas
— Sports Insights (@SportsInsights) March 16, 2018
I wonder if they'll rest some of their players against CLE next week though?Mamba Mentality
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Early favourite for highlight of the night: Dwane Casey using a question about what he learned from coaching Dirk Nowitzki to throw shade at Andrea Bargnani. pic.twitter.com/d4NiuQcaJ0
— Josh Lewenberg (@JLew1050) March 16, 2018
Mamba Mentality
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